Jeff,

Join the club. There are many of us in here that are struggling with this. I live in Canada, so even the $149.00 USD extended upgrade to VV3 from VA Pro 2.0 offer ends up costing me about 2765.00 CDN dollars :)

Seriously, I have studied the fine print on VV3 and can't see enough reason to go for the upgrade. I too have little use for the video features and simply do not want to pay for them just to get what amounts to a very light audio update for a user like myself.

I am still very happy with VA Pro 2.0 and I will stay with it.

Cheers,

Bruce

Cheinworks Said: "Vegas Video does everything that Vegas Audio does, and more audio stuff besides."

What more audio stuff besides? If you can, please give some specifics .... they will have to be important, usable things to entice me to make the switch.

Thanks.
JL
OTR

I think that you guys are shooting yourselves in the foot with that attitude. One day a client is going to ask for video stuff in the manner of scoring for their film or ripping the audio and transfering it over to another spot in the avi...plus adding a cut and crossfade from one scene to the next with a 2 second slow dissolve and then printing that back to their camera. I was just audio savy a while ago but I got a few calls...what am I suppose to do...tell them to go to the other guys studio and spend their money there?! The audio side to me FEELS more solid than it did in 2.0H and its just gonna cost you guys more in the long run when the next upgrade comes around. I doubt that there will be a $149 upgrade deal for Vegas 4 from 2.0h[notice I didn't say Vegas Video]. If you got VV3 and studied and experimented with video on the side as you're producing audio you will be better prepared in the future.

Not to twist anybodies arm though! I don't know where everybody is located at so competition wise if you feel like not upgrading it then great! I can expect a few extra calls for work then! :) Have a great day!

SHTUNOT -

I got your point, but you're missing mine. At the present time, I do get a (VERY) occaisional call for some types of video work, but not NEAR enough to justify the expense of completely tooling up for the task. I do not own any kind of video interface, nor is it in my present budget to get one.

However, I am not totally ruling out the possibility of dabbling into this kind of work in the future. I simply would like to know if, from an AUDIO standpoint - which is my primary focus (at this time) - is it really worth it to get the VV3 upgrade for its extra AUDIO features (assuming it has any) or am I better off sticking with the tried & true VAudio. It could be that when & if I decide to delve into the video realm, VV(3) may not even be my editor of choice - no idea since I haven't even looked into video at all yet.

Please don't turn this thread into a video oriented spot. I am looking at only the audio features at this time. Anyone else have any input?

Thanks.
JL
OTR

Trust me dude I'm the last person in the world to even care about any of this video stuff. It works great and if I need it its at my disposal. Audio wise there must be SOME tweaks to the audio side done. I mean it has a master bus now so mix downs probably have a better rendering scheme? Not sure, this was my impression. I work with audio 90% of the time and I honestly feel that its a bit more stable[at least on my machine]. Take that for what its worth. But if your talking about noticeable advancements between either,then I think you've answered your question already. There really isn't anything to brag about. I haven't used 2.0h in a while so I'm sorry if I can't specifically compare the two. Audio wise I honestly think its worth it.

interesting thread - one i've been considering for a while. I do -zero- video and am only interested in audio features. mastering and cd burning are irrelevant bells and whistles as far as i'm concerned (i've already invested in waves software and other burning software). i think vegas audio is hands down the best audio multitracker around and it's gaining a larger and larger following. i for one have a hard time moving over to a product with the word 'video' in the title (irrational yes, but marketing is in fact the study of the psychology of buying - rational or not!). If there are new audio features in 3 - improved rendering engine, better latency, improved interface, anything at all - it would be wonderful of SF to mention these specifically as selling points to the audio crowd. Without these specific mentions we feel as though we are being marginalized in favor of video.

i won't even mention how much midi file support and simple midi sequencing ala nuendo would rock my world!

i thought i'd found my multi-track platform but i find myself looking around now, and that's a shame.

tr

The master BUSS is the single most important addition to audio that Vegas has ever had for mixing through just one stereo pair of sound card outputs. It means that you can place a matering compressor / limiter on that buss, and the summed gain of multiple buss projects will never clip. In Vegas 2.0x the lack of a master buss means that you can never tell how much the final output file of a multiple buss project is clipping, and I can almost guarantee it is somewhere!

Other neat additions include the phase switches, greater stability especially with plugins, nicer interface (ooh it looks good in XP!), alternate pan models, improved buss / volume / pan automation (different curves etc)

Also, now you can cut out any useless audio from a project destructively when saving, to reduce the final multitrack project to a minimum size.

The CD Architect additions are really useful!

.. actually, that's quite a lot upgraded...

If you're not bothered about the lack of MIDI, then as simply an audio package, it is well worth the plunge.

I keep noticing little nifty improvements SF has made to make our lives a bit easier!

Jason