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HM - after a quick listen on cheap headphones here at work I can't say too much but good job! Sounds pretty spacious to me. I like the guitar sound especially. I'll listen in my studio as well later but if that's your first draft i'd say you're going in the right direction! Nice!

Thanks Chienworks...that will probably help some folks.

thanx cosmo,

I am really interested in reading your comments after your listening with studio speakers!

mark

Here's a few comments from the debts of the Rednroll kinder, gentler, touchy feely, politically correct, constructive criticism catalog.

First of all, get rid of that space Scifi FX keyboard drone in the beginning, it doesn't match the rest of the music at all and makes the rest of the song lose all credibility after hearing some 80's bad Star Trek deep space nine sound FX. As far as the rest of the track, it's pretty good. Reminded me a lot of Days of the new without the edgy/angry vocals. As far as the mix, the Vocals seem like they're right in front of my face. So imagine someone talking to you very loud, directly in your face and try to think, how annoying that might be, no matter how interesting what they're saying might be. Anyways, in contrast to the vocal being right in my face, the guitars and the rest of the band feel like they're standing 100 feet back. The drum tom fills sound really bad. Not sure if this is due to the recording or just bad playing, but instead of adding excitement to the performance, it sounds like a mess of noise. I can't get past these points to even go into the technical details, so I'll hold back further here.

Red

HM - I had a listen at home and I still like it. It did occur to me the reverbs don't blend well for me. If you're trying to have the vocals in your face and nothing else that way then you've got it!! Otherwise, I'd get into a reverb you really dig, then spread that same verb around the mix a little...changing slightly to taste. That's a slippery slope though cause as soon as you stray from one reverb to another in the same mix you risk spatial differences. Sometimes that's the goal though, it just depends on you.

I don't mind the intro sounds too much. I'd probably have picked different sounds...maybe something less techy and more airy - if that makes any sense. Or a very reverberated piano playing a variation on that intro guitar solo. Get creative. Yeah, the more I listen to it the more I agree with Rednroll about that intro sound being cheesy. Especially given the lyrical content and vibe. That intro build up is cool - but that sound should be ominous and scary...and desparate!!!

There's my two cents. I still think it sounds great man, nice job.

Mr. Phil posted comments on my song, prologue as follows:

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OK, shredding:

First of all, I liked the song! Tons more interresting than your other one.
Someone else pointed out that the guitars collide with the strings, but actually I think that it's more like they work side by side. If you could find a string with more arc... I would like!

Bring the chanting lead in the beggining and end closer, more in your face. And there also seem to be some kind of rythmic sync problem there. Make them more accurate to rythm.
You worked on the drums! Good! But overall I find rythmic fluctuation or whatever you can call it in english making it a little sloppy in some parts. It's not the drums. I think it's the guitar and strings that don't always correlate together. Make them tighter!

It's an excellent demo version of the song, cause it really brings out a feeling of the song! Now polish it up to become the real version! I would emphasize the piano a bit more.
I like the sound clips too. We used it alot too.

All in all: much better in every way than the other song.
Add: I've listened through crappy speakers at work so I can't comment on frequences this or that.

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Thanks Mr.Phil for you comments!! Biggest problem that's been fixed is the drums being out of sync in spots. I cleaned up the drums a lot last night, and will do some more tonight. Intro rap more in your face and more piano you say? Hmmmm...the piano has been up and down, I could push it up a little again. I still want to play with the inro rap grooves EQ-wise and spacially. You're the first to point that out though so thanks!

The file prologue032404Master03.mp3 was updated 3/2404 so pull it down and have a listen if you like. I also ran the vocals though AutoTune to smooth it out a bit. See if you notice.

Pull the lead vocal further back in the mix. Keep the synth bubbling thing from the intro going the rest of the song and a bit louder, or else do as Red said: take it away. I prefer it stays. And the guitar seems sometimes louder, and sometimes lower... or maybe it just drowns behind the leadvox.
The answering vocals don't work all times... it's the performance I mean here.
And I desperately wait for the song to "kick in" somewhere, but it doesn't. It just keeps cruising, which is a pity. Re work the arrangemant and you'll have something going here.
As for the recording all sounds well in my crappy computer speakers at work, so can't comment on frequences or such.
The key for this song to work with is the arrangement IMO.

thanks buddies for your comments. I am very surprised about the mostly positive tenor for the song. red your right with the vocals slap into the listeners face. thanks cosmo also for the reverb idea and so on. the intro was just an experiment and my intention was actually to record a didgereedoo at the beginning and because I dont have a didge in E by now I helpt myself with cheap samples.

best regards

mark

didge - that woulda been real cool! Oh well. Glad we could all help.

Anyone got any comments for me on prologue? Hey red - I thought you were gonna send me a mix of it where you added something or other - what happened?!?!?

I did send you a mix. Twice infact.....I was waiting to hear something back from you, but just figured you weren't interested in the idea. I'll give it another shot today.