Using Davinci Resolve for video for BD, avoiding recompression?

Teagan wrote on 8/16/2025, 11:18 AM

Hi I've been remastering my old projects for BD and UHD and DVD architect 7 is very handy for the regular blu ray versions as it has custom menus. The problem is that I am having to transfer my projects over from davinci resolve to vegas pro 19 via XML file and having to render it in the magix AVC blu ray presets there to avoid recompression (and having to use CPU main concept only as dvda7 doesn't like GPU accelerated video for some reason) but some of my projects have effects with plugins in davinci resolve that don't transfer over so I am having to render those blu ray video files in davinci resolve instead.

The main problem I'm encountering is that no matter what I do in davinci resolve, all h.264 video formats always have to be recompressed in dvda7 and I can't find a way around this. I know it's only a small degradation of quality but does anyone know any combination of settings I can do that will allow me to render blu ray compliant files for dvda7 within davinci resolve?

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EricLNZ wrote on 8/16/2025, 7:49 PM

Short answer, avoid using any GPU when rendering in Resolve. Presumably you've already tried this when playing around with all Resolve H264 formats so this suggestion doesn't solve your problem.

Like you I've found DVDA7 doesn't like a file which has been rendered using any GPU. I don't think GPU acceleration creating FX is an issue, but I could be wrong. With VP21 using Magix AVC to create an avc file gives a DVDA7 non compliant file if I use NV Encoder in the Encode Mode setting. Using Mainconcept AVC instead gives a compliant file. Actually I use neither as I prefer the Sony AVC render template which doesn't have the options and its files are compliant. I suspect the Sony AVC is using internal GPU provided by my Intel CPU. I say this because it renders faster than Magix AVC with MC AVC but not as fast as Magix AVC with NV Encoder.

Teagan wrote on 8/16/2025, 8:47 PM

I've tried every combination of h.264 available in every profile especially "native" which by context is CPU only and that makes the render incredibly longer to complete but in davinci resolve I am unable to totally disable gpu hardware acceleration at the program level. When I render task manager does not show GPU encode activity at all as well.

At this point I'm wondering if there's a technical limitation like I and B frames that I'm not in compliance with in the blu ray standard that I don't know about. That or I have to plug in another monitor into my motherboard HDMI port to enable the Igpu to choose that instead of this nvidia card, to see if that gets around the program level gpu selection lockout that it forces my nvidia card to be selected with.

EricLNZ wrote on 8/16/2025, 9:05 PM

I and B frames etc are way above my head. Anyway here's the media info from a compliant AVC stream from VP21 Sony AVC render just in case it contains any useful info.

Dexcon wrote on 8/16/2025, 10:06 PM

In DR's Preferences / System (tab) / 'Memory and GPU' selection, have you tried unchecking all GPU Configuration options?

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EricLNZ wrote on 8/17/2025, 3:46 AM

@Teagan Does Resolve have Blu-ray render templates or are you just trying to export something suitable with what's available? I've no experience with Resolve hence my question.

Either way can you post Media Info on one of your H264 files that DVDA insists on compressing. Playing around we may be able to find a solution.

Teagan wrote on 8/17/2025, 6:14 AM

In DR's Preferences / System (tab) / 'Memory and GPU' selection, have you tried unchecking all GPU Configuration options?

It doesn't let me uncheck and totally not choose any GPU, it forces me to check one manually or with "auto".

 

@Teagan Does Resolve have Blu-ray render templates or are you just trying to export something suitable with what's available? I've no experience with Resolve hence my question.

Either way can you post Media Info on one of your H264 files that DVDA insists on compressing. Playing around we may be able to find a solution.

I'm just trying to export something that works, davinci resolve doesn't have anything blu ray related.

This is the file that requires recompression. I've played around with CABAC and can choose that entropy mode instead of CAVLC which is not what dvda wants, but I can't manually choose how many reference frames I have, I can only get 4 or 3, but not 2 as in the dvda non-recompress files.

The only thing in the davinci manual that references blu ray for h.264 is related to CABAC entropy encoding, which I'm using and only using CPU encoding. I just don't have access to choose only 2 reference frames.

Dexcon wrote on 8/17/2025, 8:48 AM

I've checked the reference frame number in MAGIX AVC/AAC renders that I've used for years in Vegas Pro and the reference frame number is always 4 - but that's for HD 25 fps projects, not 24 (23.976) fps projects. One of the failures of Resolve is its inability to render to an fps rate that is different to the fps rate of the media on its timeline - if there's a way to do this I'd love to know. I mention this because I just tried to render in Resolve 20.1 Studio a short 25 fps video (10 secs) to 23.976 fps but could not do so even after changing Resolve's Project Preferences to 24 fps - it just reverted to 25 fps. Not surprising in that a bit under 2 years ago I couldn't transcode 50 fps GoPro video to 25 fps in Resolve - but Vegas Pro could do that easily.

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Dexcon wrote on 8/17/2025, 9:31 AM

I've now found a 23.976 fps video and rendered it in Resolve to an H.264 HD AVC file (the result was 4 reference frames). It imported and played back in DVD Architect DVDA 6.0 - and successfully rendered to an .ISO file.

Last changed by Dexcon on 8/17/2025, 9:44 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition; Samsung S23 Ultra smart phone

Installed: Vegas Pro 13, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 & 23, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 20.2, BCC 2025.5, Mocha Pro 2025.5, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR 6, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 12, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

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10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

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Teagan wrote on 8/17/2025, 11:57 AM

I've now found a 23.976 fps video and rendered it in Resolve to an H.264 HD AVC file (the result was 4 reference frames). It imported and played back in DVD Architect DVDA 6.0 - and successfully rendered to an .ISO file.

I mean all mine play in DVDA7 it's just I don't want it to recompress the video during the compiling process, which degrades quality a bit.

EricLNZ wrote on 8/17/2025, 10:57 PM

and successfully rendered to an .ISO file

@Dexcon Could you please confirm that this "rendering" involved recompression and was not just image creation?

Dexcon wrote on 8/17/2025, 11:24 PM

@EricLNZ  ... I've checked that DR render again and, unfortunately, DVDA 6 did recompress it when rendering to the .ISO file.

Since then, I've done a lot of testing in DR 20.1 with rendering to H.264 25fps 1920x1080 .AVC using many different custom render settings - but DVDA still wants to recompress the Resolve H.264 renders each and every time - basically the same result as the OP encountered. In DVDA, I also tested what happens with changing "Use default bit rate mode - yes or no" in DVDA's Optimize Disc settings for the video - either way, recompression was still needed for those videos. I think that I'm out of ideas with DR rendering at this stage.

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Windows 11

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10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

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EricLNZ wrote on 8/17/2025, 11:41 PM

Well I've been playing around and thought I had a simple solution by rewrapping a mp4 file I created into a mts file with Shutter Encoder. It added okay to a new DVDA7 menu page with a thumbnail image created. In File/Optimize Disc it showed the video stream didn't need recompression. Great, but that was the end of the good news as thereafter when I tried to do anything I just got a blank preview, blank menu page and DVDA would go grey and give up. I also tried using tsMuxer to "rewrap" to a m2ts file and Shutter Encoder to convert (rerender) to a m2ts file. All files gave the same problem in DVDA. I subsequently discovered these files also gave problems in my VP21.

So back to the Blu-ray problem. @Teagan you mentioned that recompression with DVDA degrades the image. DVDA is now an old 32 bit programme. Yes it's 32 bit! I'd try converting the files to compliant streams or files using more modern software. You have VP19. VP has recently experienced improvements in its rendering but probably post version 19? I don't know as I've only recently switched from VMS17. Anyway you could try using VP19 to rerender one of your Resolve files to Blu-ray compliant files to use in DVDA. Is there any noticeable video degradation with these files?

Dexcon wrote on 8/18/2025, 12:16 AM

... you could try using VP19 to rerender one of your Resolve files to Blu-ray compliant files to use in DVDA. Is there any noticeable video degradation with these files?

Just leading on from Eric's suggestion, if your Resolve projects are UHD (i.e. 3840x2160) - and UHD was mentioned in the original post - you could do an UHD render in Resolve and then import that UHD render into Vegas Pro to render to a DVDA compliant HD .AVC file. This way, you're rendering UHD to HD rather than HD to HD which should make video quality loss negligible - if any. I recently did this in Vegas Pro 22 when a 140 mins UHD project wouldn't properly render to HD .AVC. An UHD .mp4 render worked successfully and I then rendered that UHD .mp4 render to HD .AVC for use in DVDA. It worked out very well IMO.

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Teagan wrote on 8/18/2025, 9:03 AM

... you could try using VP19 to rerender one of your Resolve files to Blu-ray compliant files to use in DVDA. Is there any noticeable video degradation with these files?

So back to the Blu-ray problem. @Teagan you mentioned that recompression with DVDA degrades the image. DVDA is now an old 32 bit programme. Yes it's 32 bit! I'd try converting the files to compliant streams or files using more modern software. You have VP19. VP has recently experienced improvements in its rendering but probably post version 19? I don't know as I've only recently switched from VMS17. Anyway you could try using VP19 to rerender one of your Resolve files to Blu-ray compliant files to use in DVDA. Is there any noticeable video degradation with these files?

I think that is what I should do from now on with some of my projects, just re-render in vp19 as you said, there's less likely chance of degredation.