Using VOB Files With Sony Vegas 8

TimFoxx wrote on 7/11/2008, 3:32 PM
Hello all,

Ive recently come across the need to use some older VOB files I have on my hard drive. There doesnt seem to be a way to import VOB files from your hard drive directly.

I can drag the VOB into the media folder, and then put it on the time line, but it only shows like a small percentage fo the whole clip. If I stretch the clip out I can even see additional thumbnails on the clip, but the video just loops over and over on that small percentage.

I've tried renaming the file as well to an MPG.

Does anyone know how to use VOBs directly with out re-burning them to a DVD? Thanks.

Comments

nolonemo wrote on 7/11/2008, 3:58 PM
Have you tried using the "import" function on the file menu? (I have no idea if that will make any difference)
Jayster wrote on 7/11/2008, 7:10 PM
Try dragging the ifo file to the timeline.
johnmeyer wrote on 7/11/2008, 7:33 PM
The IFO file will do nothing in Vegas.

Showing only small portions of the VOB file is a common problem. Try the camcorder import feature first, as already suggested. If that doesn't do the trick, rename the VOB to MPG and try again. I doubt either of these will work, but it's worth a try.

Next, try the MPEG repair tool that John Cline just posted about in another thread (do a search on his user name).


I think this problem is related to how the audio file (or files) are embedded in the VOB. So, the other possible solution is to demux the audio and video and then put the individual files on the Vegas timeline. However, if the audio is AC-3, Vegas won't import it unless it is "in" something else. However, sometimes the audio from the VOB file will be complete, even if the video timeline is truncated. In that case, put the VOB file in the project, delete the video portion, and then take the demultiplexed video from the VOB, put that on the video timeline, make sure they are lined up, and then group them.
TomG wrote on 7/12/2008, 5:01 AM
This goes back to ancient history (Vegas 4?) but it always worked for me.

How To Transfer From a VOB to MPEG

1. Copied the .vob file to my hard disk.
2. Used DVD2AVI
a. Load the .vob file (make sure you have them all if needed)
b. Video settings: Field operations = None: Color Space = YUV
4:2:2; Idct Algorithm = 32bit SSE2 MMX
c. Save Project which will create a .dv2 file
d. Make sure that the framerate is 29.97 fps (use VideoScope)
3. Load .dv2 file to VFABIConv to add avi marker and create the .avi
access point.
a. Don't forget to register the file type with the provided .bat file
(like I did) so VV4 can see it
4. Edit .avi file from above in VV4c
5. Render to MPEG-2 using NTSC DVD template (29.97 frame rate)
The default field order (Advanced/video tab) is interlaced-bottom,
If there is a lot of judder, may need to switch to progressive (or
Interlaced-top). Also use the best video quality setting.
6. Might want to consider the “reduce interlace flutter” setting by
checking it in Video properties (right click on the .avi file).
7. Author and burn in DVDA (others suggest just letting DVDA direct
render and burn)
8. NOTE: When using stills and you get jutter, apply the Gaussian
Blur (Light) filter.

Hope this helps

Tom G
rs170a wrote on 7/12/2008, 7:45 AM
FWIW, I have no problems importing VOBs from projects on my hard drive in both Vegas 7 and Pro 8.

Mike
johnmeyer wrote on 7/12/2008, 12:18 PM
FWIW, I have no problems importing VOBs from projects on my hard drive in both Vegas 7 and Pro 8.It all depends on the VOB. 80% of the time, they work just fine for me as well, but I have seen the truncated VOB, where you only get the first minute or two appearing. It is a real issue, and happens to a LOT of Vegas users.

As for the VFApi "trick" for working with MPEG-2 and VOB files in any version of Vegas, it definitely is a great way to not only get around the problem you are having, but also to get amazing performance on the Vegas timeline. It will show you how lame the MPEG-2 reading capability is within Vegas.

Here are two links to posts where I describe the process in detail. Note that I use DGIndex instead of DVD2AVI. It is the up-to-date version of that older utility (although DVD2AVI generally still works)

VFAPIConv editing of VOB files

Extracting Video from a DVD image
video777 wrote on 7/12/2008, 2:25 PM
It would be interesting to know what criteria makes it not work. I was blown away when I discovered I could easily drag and drop to Vegas and then immediately begin editing. Editing .vob files in Liquid is "hit and miss" (more miss than hit).
johnmeyer wrote on 7/12/2008, 6:09 PM
It would be interesting to know what criteria makes it not work. I can't say for sure, but having had it happen many times, I think it has to do with the audio. I am pretty sure that 5.1 audio throws it for a loop.
video777 wrote on 7/13/2008, 2:18 PM
Thanks John.
Rory Cooper wrote on 7/13/2008, 10:27 PM
The IFO file will do nothing in Vegas

I copy the VOB file and IFO to my working file on my hard drive but its is weird but on some jobs [for ex i received LION KING musical DVD from Disney studios ]
And battled only reading parts of the clip and when I imported the IFO and not theVOB it worked and do this often depending on the dvd

I have no idea why

strange but true

Governor wrote on 7/14/2008, 3:33 PM
I am not sure if this will cause any quality problems, but the easiest way is to just change the file type to ".mpg" This will allow you to view in windows media player and to edit in trimmer of vegas. if any of the pro's know if this will cause a problem I am not aware of please post it.
Rory Cooper wrote on 7/14/2008, 10:36 PM
I have changed the file extension often, VOB, MOV, AND M2t to MPEG and don’t see a difference on the big screens’ there are a few of us and we all say the same
johnmeyer wrote on 7/15/2008, 10:00 AM
A VOB is NOT the same thing as an MPEG file because it contains lots of other stuff (subtitles, angles, some navigation pointers, etc.)

Therefore, except in the simple instance where the VOB only contains video and a single audio track, changing the extension will not solve the problem.
jdinkins wrote on 7/16/2008, 5:27 PM
Renaming to .mpeg/.mpg doesn't always work like others have suggested. It still only gets the first couple minutes of the entire file and hit and miss sections and ultimately is not usable really.

I'd give the import dvd a shot.
johnmeyer wrote on 7/16/2008, 5:47 PM
I'd give the import dvd a shot.I agree 100%. That is how Vegas is designed to handle DVDs and therefore it should always be the first thing you try if dropping the VOB on the timeline doesn't work. The only downside to import is that it creates a bunch of MPEG-2 files which take time to create and take up extra disk space. That's why I always try simply dropping the VOB file on the timeline. If it works, I'm done; if not, I try import; if that doesn't work, I de-multiplex and import; and if that doesn't work I do the DGINdex/VFAPI "trick" I talked about in my earlier post.
Rory Cooper wrote on 7/17/2008, 12:29 AM
OK that’s where I was going wrong thanks for the insight
Maverick wrote on 7/17/2008, 2:54 AM
How do you Import vob files stored on HDD?

Non of the import options show the vobs even when selecting 'All media'.

Cheers
cbrillow wrote on 7/17/2008, 6:04 AM
How do you Import vob files stored on HDD?

Instead of 'All Media', set the filter to 'All Files'. Your .vob files will then be included in the list of available types.

Maverick wrote on 7/17/2008, 2:20 PM
Thanks.

Didn't think to scroll up the list;)