V9 64 problems burning Bluray

LongTallTexan wrote on 5/18/2009, 5:24 PM
Vegas 9 64 bit is certainly buggy, but my real issue is when I try to burn to disc to bluray from the timeline it searches for drives and immediately re-boots. Every time. Also the same in DVDA 5. All of which worked perfectly in version 8. I have the LG Super Blue drive. Need help soon as my clients are pissed.

L.T.

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john-beale wrote on 5/18/2009, 5:40 PM
I don't think anyone (on these forums anyway) has recommended using V9 for real (paying-customer) work yet. For real work people are still using V8, until the bugs are worked out. It was the same with V7 going up to V8 as I recall.
ushere wrote on 5/18/2009, 5:58 PM
you know i think we're giving scs way too much 'headroom' here - i don't think paying $200+ for a buggy piece of software can be brushed off with - it'll be ok with the .a version!

as for the argument that we shouldn't be using our newly purchased software for 'commercial' work - well wtf is it for? beta testing?

i'm sorry, but v9 is beginning to look more and more like a 'rushed' release.

and this on top of the bugs that never got repaired in 8c.

leslie
john-beale wrote on 5/18/2009, 6:13 PM
I am not saying that's the way it should be, but just that's the way it is (x.00 ends up being a beta release). Given that Sony is offering the program as a free trial, I'm not complaining too much yet.
LongTallTexan wrote on 5/19/2009, 5:16 AM
So is anyone else having this problem. I have tried updateding the driver and firmware to no avail. My system recognizes the drive just doesn't work with Vegas 9 and DVDA 5. Not sure if it is a 64 bit hing. All worked fine under V8 32

L.T.
rtbond wrote on 5/19/2009, 6:26 AM
I have the LG GGW-H20L burner, but have not tried burning under Vegas 64-bit v9. Have you tried just creating the ISO image, and then using a program like ImgBurn to burn the BD-R?

--Rob

Rob Bond

My System Info:

  • Vegas Pro 22 Build 194
  • OS: Windows 11.0 Home (64-bit), Version: 10.0.26100 Build 26100
  • Processor: i9-10940X CPU @ 3.30GHz (14 core)
  • Physical memory: 64GB (Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 memory kit)
  • Motherboard Model: MSI x299 Creator (MS-7B96)
  • GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC ULTRA (Studio Driver Version =  536.40)
  • Storage: Dual Samsung 970 EVO 1TB SSD (boot and Render); WDC WD4004FZWX, 7200 RPM (media)
  • Primary Display: Dell UltraSharp 27, U2723QE, 4K monitor with 98% DCI-P3 and DisplayHDR 400 with Dell Display Manager
  • Secondary Display: LG 32UK550-B, entry-level 4k/HDR-10 level monitor, @95% DCI-P3 coverage
LongTallTexan wrote on 5/19/2009, 6:39 AM
I've been trying to keep only my Sony software on this machine, but I geuss if that is the work around, I will try anything. I suspect it may be a 64 bit problem. I am thinking it is a Sony thing but I would love to think that it is not.

L.T.
LongTallTexan wrote on 5/19/2009, 9:03 AM
re-up
Laurence wrote on 5/19/2009, 10:22 AM
Never use any Sony software for actual work until at least the b (maybe the c) release.

You're not running Slysoft AnyDVD by chance are you? I need to disable AnyDVD before I use any kind of disc authoring software.
LongTallTexan wrote on 5/19/2009, 6:35 PM
No at this point i only have v9 64 and DVDA 5 installed. Microsoft says its a bad driver, LG says its an XP 64 assigning the wrong plug n play driver. SCS is researching the problem as a possible V9 64 problem. As for me im just frustrated with the entire 64 bit experience. I will say that Vegas 9 hasn't given me any problems editing. If i could just get it to Bluray. Aaaaaaaarghhh!!!


L.T.
srode wrote on 5/19/2009, 6:51 PM
Are you getting it to pre - render and create an ISO image in DVDA? There hasn't been any changes to DVDA - with Vegas 9 so I would think it would work. DVDA works fine with XP64 and both 8.0C and 8.1. I have created several Blurays on my LG Bluray Burner with 8 and 5.b

Maybe try creating the ISO image first then go back and burn the disc?
LongTallTexan wrote on 5/19/2009, 7:51 PM
I hear you, i burned 100's of Blurays in Vegas 8 and DVDA 4.5 and 5. But all in 32 bit. Now with 64 its all gimped. I can prepare an iso and dvd prep files but whats the point. I need to burn them and i only have one BluRay burner.

L.T.
srode wrote on 5/20/2009, 3:21 AM
All in 32 bit XP or with XP64? I can't see why once an image is created DVDA would know or care if the image was created with Veg9 or Veg8? Seems very odd. I'll have to try to create one this weekend on mine and see if its something I can replicate - have project I want to rerender 1920x1080 AVCHD anyway using a batch process.
eVoke wrote on 5/20/2009, 3:27 AM
Did some testing last night -
Using Pro 9 64bit I was able to edit and render a 20 minute clip for blu-ray with the 1440x1080 60i template in a tad under 15 minutes. Then I was able to open up DVDA 5 and burn a blu-ray disc without a hiccup. The total process took a little over 46 minutes.
I'm using the LG Super Multi Blue BH08LS20 [the newest drive]

Now for the disappointing revelation -

Blu-ray disc authored with DVDA 5 don't play as they would normally [working menu/functions] in the Playstation 3. Once inserted the Playstation 3 recognizes it as a "data" disc. In order for you to view the content you have to scroll through all the folders to get to the BDMV files you want to view. This is the work around mentioned the DVDA 5 help file(s).
I can't understand why this wouldn't be native support between both of these Sony products.
srode wrote on 5/20/2009, 4:45 AM
Interesting - do you have a regular Bluray player to play it in? I would be intereted in hearing if it's a problem for more than 1 player. Did you create MPEG2 or AVC in DVDA?
LongTallTexan wrote on 5/20/2009, 4:59 AM
All of my Blurays were created in windows XP 32


L.T.
JJKizak wrote on 5/20/2009, 5:27 AM
Burner access is a huge problem in 64 bit and I would check to see if your motherboard drivers are all up to date. I had a similar problem untill I got the correct driver.
JJK
LongTallTexan wrote on 5/20/2009, 6:40 AM
Yeah i hear you. I updated all drivers. LG says that they stoped developing new drivers for the drive because of Windows plug n play driver assigning which doesnt make sense to me. All i have been able to find is firmware updates which i have updated already.

L.T.
eVoke wrote on 5/20/2009, 7:03 AM
@ srode -

I don't have a stand alone blu-ray player and I can't actually think of anyone I know who has one - PS3 is all I have.

Run down on what I did:
* Pulled in a clip shot in HDV with an XH A1.
* Trimmed it down to 20 minutes.
* Encoded/rendered using the 1440x1080 60i / 25Mbps / included the audio as well. When done it put produced 2 files. The video format came out as m2v and the audio came out as .mpa. They both played using WMPlayer.
* Closed down Pro 9 64bit and then opened DVDA 5.
* Made up a menu and imported the files made with Pro 9.
* Everything went as it should and the disc was ejected.
* Rushed down to the living room and loaded the disc where my PS3 recognized it as a data disc.
* Rushed back up stairs and searched the help files. After about 10 minutes I came across the "workflow" to view the content on the PS3.


When I get home I'll see what happens when I use the Blu-ray viewer app on my computer.
If I can get some time maybe I'll swing by the local Best Buy and see if I can get one of the sales rep to let me try it in one the floor model players
john-beale wrote on 5/20/2009, 10:56 AM
Just want to confirm this... DVDA cannot make a Blu-Ray disc (BD-R media) which plays as such on a PS3? Yikes!

Note, I already know the PS3 does not play blu-ray format burned to DVD-R media, but I would not call that a Blu-Ray (BD-R) disc exactly, rather it is a DVD-R with high-def files on it (similar to AVCHD format?) I understand some stand-alone Blu-Ray players will play a DVD-R with BDMV files as if it were a true BD-R disc.

(Of course the PS3 could in theory play a "mini-BluRay" from DVD-R media if the firmware was constructed to do so, but I assume Sony has made some strategic decision not to do that.)
blink3times wrote on 5/20/2009, 11:35 AM
"Blu-ray disc authored with DVDA 5 don't play as they would normally [working menu/functions] in the Playstation 3."

You're talking about producing REAL blu ray disks through DVDa 5?

If that's the case then DVDa5 hasn't changed a bit... it all should work fine. I just finished a 2 hour blu ray (22gigs) without a hitch. Motion menus, intro media... etc. It all works fine in the PS3.
LongTallTexan wrote on 5/20/2009, 11:46 AM
We are talking about on a 64 bit platform. Sony just notified me that they do not support XP 64 only Vista 64 and wont even talk to me about it any further. I then asked well if I upgrade to Vista 64 will that remedy my problem or will you fix it if it doesn't. No response. Looks like im Vista 64 shopping now. Strangely, my other software burns fine with this set up only Vegas conflicts with my burner in XP 64 well and DVDA which all worked flawlessly under Vegas 8 under xp 32.

L.T.
blink3times wrote on 5/20/2009, 11:49 AM
"We are talking about on a 64 bit platform. "

I'm on vista 64 ultimate as well as windows 7, 64... it all works fine.
blink3times wrote on 5/20/2009, 11:52 AM
"Note, I already know the PS3 does not play blu-ray format burned to DVD-R media,"

This is untrue.
Vegas struggles with the concept that's for sure. Try doing one with vegas and it will come up as "data disk".

Ulead MF6 (with the high def package) however will produce them flawlessly... with or without full menus.
eVoke wrote on 5/20/2009, 11:54 AM
@ b3t

I'm not sure what to tell you because that was the first blu-ray disc I've ever burned [BD-R was the media type used / Verbatim was the brand]. I previewed everything before I burned it and DVD5 performed in a fashion I've been familiar with from start to finish. All the menu functions worked in the preview.
I wouldn't have any problem posting links to screen caps of the workflow/work around listed in the DVD5 help files and pics of the PS3 recognizing it as a data disc.
I somewhat hesitant to burn another one because of the current prices for BD-R media. Once I get home I'll tinker around with it a little more.