V9 chroma key eyedropper behaves differently

Laurence wrote on 5/12/2009, 9:03 PM

I am finding that the chroma key eyedropper no longer will select a range, but only a single dot like every other video editor. Being able to select an average color over a section of greenscreen was a nice feature that I would like to see come back.

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jazzmaster wrote on 5/12/2009, 9:15 PM

i just can't believe that would happen. Anybody else?

tumbleweed7 wrote on 5/12/2009, 9:30 PM

He's right... I'm using Vista32...
This would be a strange thing to change...
maybe there's a key stroke needed also....

ushere wrote on 5/12/2009, 9:32 PM

yep, even upsidedown (australia).

bugger......

winxp 32bit

Marco. wrote on 5/12/2009, 10:33 PM

It still does select a range though you just don't see the rectangle no more. This is not a bug.

Marco

Laurence wrote on 5/12/2009, 10:48 PM

Yes you seem to be right. I miss the box though.

ushere wrote on 5/12/2009, 10:48 PM

i have to say that if i can't see what i'm doing - it's a bug.

Laurence wrote on 5/12/2009, 10:58 PM

I'll tell you what I would like to see (while this is hopefully being fixed): I would like to be able to draw shapes other than boxes and have the value be an average of what was in that drawn shape. That way you could draw around an area that covered both sides of a subject rather than having to choose a rectangular box in one area of the screen. That would really be the way to do it.

Grazie wrote on 5/12/2009, 11:22 PM

I would like Well you/I/we have kinda got this. We can,make masks on the basis of luminance and colour and on. Wouldn't combining this with CC provide a more "organic" shape for us to use in colour correction? I haven't tried this myself, but I do feel that this would be very useful.

. .and yes, I want me box back - NOW!

Grazie

farss wrote on 5/13/2009, 1:27 AM

I don't think what you want is going to achieve what I think you think it's going to do.
As I understand it the CKer works based on the color (angle) of the screen. The in/out values let you select the luma values of the screen. Most important is getting the correct angle and I've had better results inputting the correct angle by hand than by using the picker at all. Selecting a large or multiple regions could I suspect throw off the CK'er from getting the correct angle.

Bob.

Grazie wrote on 5/18/2009, 8:48 AM

I reported our concerns regarding the Rectangle and I have just had a response from SONY Madison saying: " . . the Vegas team removed the drag rectangle to get the tool to work on all combinations of graphics card, driver, and OS." - end of message.

Grazie

Laurence wrote on 5/18/2009, 9:16 AM

It still works, you just have to imagine the rectangle. It isn't as good as it was, but you can work with it.

Grazie wrote on 5/18/2009, 9:31 AM

Sure. But we aren't waiting for the "other-shoe" to drop!

Grazie

TheHappyFriar wrote on 5/18/2009, 9:35 AM

learn something new every day! Never knew you could drag a rectangle in pre-9! :)

But I'm sure it's under the same importance as the curves in pan/crop & we won't see it any time soon. :(

Grazie wrote on 5/18/2009, 9:44 AM

. . and no rectangle on GenMed NOR 2nd colour corrector - and THAT produces masks - yeah?

Grazie

FrigidNDEditing wrote on 5/18/2009, 10:15 AM

Guys it was a bug fix to remove it actually ( kind of a bad way of doing that maybe? ), but anyone in vista with glass turned on had the whole area they selected be black and grey because it covered over all the image with the way the selection box looked in that area.

Example

It's a bug I reported and I'm glad to see they finally fixed it in 9, but I might have liked to see it fixed another way.

Dave

Grazie wrote on 5/18/2009, 10:19 AM

. . and you call that being "fixed"? It is a removal of the rectangle. How's that a fixed bug?

I found the rectangle useful - maybe you didn't?

Grazie

TheHappyFriar wrote on 5/18/2009, 10:50 AM

. . and you call that being "fixed"? It is a removal of the rectangle. How's that a fixed bug?

Vista has a new GUI that's obviously not compatible with the "old" way of doing things, so the best way to "fix" the vegas issues was to remove it.

I'd say someone @ sony should look @ the gimp code & see how they handle it. Gimp for my wife in Vista does boxes no problem so it can be done. I'm betting in Vegas, because it's a video preview window, it was not creating dotted lines but an actual overlay of a box with edges showing & that created the problem.

Grazie wrote on 5/18/2009, 11:04 AM

Then supply a new alternative?

I want a way to recognise what I am dragging across. And, as it happens, Happy, you didn't even know it was a feature in the first place! So what you ain't had you don't know when it's gone. Old ways? Let's have some new ways then of registering the "drag".

Grazie