V9, XDCAM 422 gone AWOL?

farss wrote on 5/18/2009, 5:40 AM
Somewhat taken aback after all the hype about XDCAM 422 @ 50mbps to find there's no template for this in the mpeg-2 encoder. Thinking this might be some 'easter egg' I'd have to create for myself I got lost in a maze of conflicting interactions trying to configure the friggin MC encoder. I actually managed to get 4:2:2, I could get it set to 50Mbps, briefly. In the end though and without my prompting I could get a template that was going to encode 4:2:2 at 9.8Mbps 1920x1080. Not the stuff high quality video would be made at. What gives here?

Even more alarming for the newcomers I note the default for the mpeg-2 quality slider is around 50%. I can see some Mums and Dads making some pretty mushy DVDs with Vegas 9.0.

Bob.

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erikd wrote on 5/18/2009, 5:45 AM
Wow. That is some shocking stuff for V9 not to be fully integrated with the "chosen one" XDCAM 4:2:2. You think that Sony is basically saying if someone had the bucks to pay for the 700 camera that they won't be editing their video with Vegas??????

Erik
Jay Gladwell wrote on 5/18/2009, 6:53 AM

Bob, there's an excellent chance I've misunderstood what you're looking for, but...

When selecting "Render As," under the "Save as type" window, there is "Sony MXF." Then, using the "Custom" button, in the drop down list is "HD 422 1920x1080-60i 50Mbps." Within it's custom menu, it can be set as progressive, as opposed to interlaced along with other adjustments.

Once rendered, when you open the clip's "Properties" under the "General" tab it shows the clip, in the "Streams Video" line, as being MPEG-2 HD, 50Mbps (CBR).

Is this what you were looking for, or am I totally off base?


farss wrote on 5/18/2009, 2:47 PM
"Bob, there's an excellent chance I've misunderstood what you're looking for, but..."

Nope, thank you, found it, just looking in the wrong place.
Stupidest thing on my part is I was pretty certain I'd used it in V8 as an intermediate and then I couldn't recall how I'd done it, yish.

Having found it and from a quick check it does seem to hold up quite nicely. I took two EX HQ clips with a dissolve between them, encoded to XDCAM 422 and cannot find any difference between original and render using subtraction.

Still don't understand why the MC mpeg-2 encoder is locked down though. The Flash XDR and Nano Flash from Convergent Design offers us > 50Mbps 422 using Sony's hardware. Would be kind of nice to have a matching capability in Vegas. I guess it'll decode OK onto the Vegas T/L. Probably the software encoder encoder will match the hardware encoder, I'll have to await the arrival of a Nano to know for sure.

Bob.
Jay Gladwell wrote on 5/18/2009, 3:43 PM

Where did you find it?

farss wrote on 5/18/2009, 4:05 PM
Where you said I'd find it, as a Save As type Sony MXF.
That will give me MXF at 50Mbps 422.

Where I was trying to find it and render as was mpeg-2. I was hoping I could encode as native mpeg-2 at 50Mbps 422 but no such luck. In fact the mpeg-2 Studio Profile goes to 100Mbps at 422 but I think that's where I'm getting lost / confused. MC do not appear to support that profile, "High" is as far as it goes.

Bob.
Jay Gladwell wrote on 5/18/2009, 4:38 PM

Sorry, I thought you meant "Nope, that's not what I was looking for..."

And the nice thing I noticed was the new file isn't that much larger than the camera original. In any case, I'm tickled pink with that option.