Vegas 13 issue or user error?

BobMoyer wrote on 6/8/2014, 4:09 PM
All of my previously saved .veg files created with Vegas 10e (64bit) do not want to open properly in Vegas 13. They will still open correctly in Vegas 10e. The issue is that they will not open with 5.1 audio channels but rather a simple stereo channel. I usually open my .veg files from the explorer tab. I even tried to open them by the importing media option and then once it is in my media pool I simply drag it to the timeline. I can open 10e and 13 at the same time and copy all of the media from 10e and paste it into 13 and all seems to work well that way, however it is time consuming and I don't believe it should work that way. What have I done wrong?

Bob

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BobMoyer wrote on 6/9/2014, 4:56 PM
To add to this question. If I double click on the .veg file on my desktop, the project will open correctly...5.1 audio in Vegas 13. However, if I open Vegas first and then use the 'explorer' tab to navigate to the same .veg file it will only open with a stereo audio channel. If I then use the 'media' tab and select 'Edit in Vegas', it opens another instance of Vegas and again the project loads correctly with 5.1 audio. This can't be working correctly. Any help would be appreciated.

Bob
Edit: I just realized that while in the 'explorer' tab, if I double click on the .veg file it will open correctly. Evidently, I have been dragging the .veg file to the timeline NOT selecting it by double clicking. Guess that makes a big difference. Sorry if I wasted your time but it seems to be solved.
ChrisDolan (SCS) wrote on 6/10/2014, 9:23 AM
Good discovery, BobMoyer. Indeed, dragging a .veg from Explorer (either Windows Explorer or Vegas Explorer) to the timeline makes a *nested* project inside of the current project, and we only support stereo for nested projects.
Chris
BobMoyer wrote on 6/10/2014, 5:32 PM
But....even though Vegas only supports stereo for nested projects, it will still 'render' out as 5.1 audio if that is what the project properties and render template are set for...correct??

Bob
ChrisDolan (SCS) wrote on 6/11/2014, 11:41 AM
Sort of. The output render will indeed be 5.1, but if the nested project has any 5.1 content it will be truncated to stereo for inclusion in the parent project (only the first two channels are kept and the other 4 are ignored) and then upmixed back to 5.1 for render.

The core reason for this limitation is a technical detail: the audio of a nested project is always pre-rendered to a WAV proxy when you first bring it into the parent project. That audio proxy is always 32-bit stereo float PCM.

So, if you are doing a surround project, you should use nested projects only for video or ambient audio, not for precise audio.
BobMoyer wrote on 6/11/2014, 2:34 PM
Thank you for explaining that.

Bob