thanks for the quick reply.
i m told that win me is the worst os. another question, if i run vegas on win2k just for video editing without recording audio, can i use my soundblaster live soundcard?
coz i can disable my gina 24 card to fix the irq problem on win2k. i can also disable the printer port and fix the irq problem but the thing is i have to run cubase with a dongle on printer port.any advice?
my spec: p3 866 512 ram intel 815e chipset, echo gina24, sb live, adaptec firewire card.
thanks again.

Dont be too sure about fixing IRQ probs on win2k. Win2k, by default, assigns all devices to one IRQ, and if you want to get around this you have to disable ACPI during the install, and etc., etc., it's involved and complicated. There've been a number of discussions about this on this forum, (probably to be found under ACPI), check em out. My SBLive card runs fine on 2k.

thanks jboy
i do run win2k under standard pc mode(not acpi)
i think i would try disable my gina 24 soundcard and use sb live instead on the win2k os, i think it should be fine, i dont do any audio recording on vv3.
one last question, performance wise, would it make any difference if i play back using gina vs. sblive?
thanks for all.

While for sure every system is different, if you visit any of the techie forums or newsgroups the overwhelming conscientious is ME stinks. In fact I have yet to find anyone with technical background singing the praises of ME, while I have no trouble finding people finding faults with it. If anyone has no problems with ME, then by all means stick with it. However if you do have problems or are thinking of upgrading I'd skip over ME and go with XP.

Part of the problem with ME is Microsoft was feeling pressure to release something. They came up with ME which offered little new aside from trying to fix a few minor bugs and putting a fresh face on WIN98 which is basiclly all ME is. Worse they "fixed" things that weren't broken and everyone knows the results of that kind of misguided thinking. On the other hand XP builds on W2K and improves on that platform's known realibility.

>Dont be too sure about fixing IRQ probs on win2k. Win2k, by default, assigns all >devices to one IRQ, and if you want to get around this you have to disable ACPI >during the install, and etc., etc., it's involved and complicated.

I'm not an IT guy but I installed W2K pro on my editing machine without doing anything extra like disabling ACPI and I don't have a single IRQ shared. Go figure.

To add my two cent about this whole - Vegas On WinME (the original question posted by WAY2SLO to begin with)

I am using WinME on an eMachine Celeron633(for crying out loud). I have the Pinnacle Studio DV 1394 card, 64MB Geforce NVIDIA video card, 256MB SDRAM and 15GB HD (preinstalled) and 30GB HD (added for capturing video / audio editing). These additions I made myself with WinME running. I have Vegas Video 3.0, Acid Pro 3.0, Sound Forge XP 5.0 also installed and to conclude:

"I have NEVER had any problems: (ex.:IRQ's are fine,NEVER dropped a single frame of captured video - up to two hours a time, in the 18min/4GB chunks, NO Audio skipping with up to 30 tracks of audio - many/most of which had at least one or more DirectX plug-in(s) added at the track level."

My video / audio renders have NEVER been "unsatisfactory" and as for technical knowledge: I have used every Microsoft OS from DOS 5.0 thru Win2K. I have heard from other "technically knowleable" people (on forums, in person, professionally) who have also had success with WinME. I am also an Audio Technician professionally so I think I know good sound/engineering when I hear it. My system was built for my personal use (on a budget) and I have produced material on this basic system that have been used on other professional applications.

For a consumer/prosumer level I would have to say Vegas Video 3.0 is leaps and bound above any other comparable NLE (Audio or Video) including some "higher end" systems. As far as learning curve, ease of use and dependability. Win98SE and WinME have always suited me just fine for my applications. A coworker of mine, conversely, uses Win2K, ProTools LE (Digi001), and Premiere 6 (with After Effects) and is regularly running into roadblocks (at a OS level most of the time) and lengthy project renders (sometimes with less than pleasing results). I am able to complete some far more advanced mixes and video effects utilizing my software in much less time and a lot less headache.

So what's my point? I am with GG on this one (and many others evidently). Each computer system (and user - more importantly) seems to have it's own advantages/disadvantages while some people swear by one setup or configuration there are always those who have problems, if not disasters. It's up to each person find what systems work for them. While it's good to get feedback from others, don't accept someone's opinion to totally dismiss a certain OS or Software as "junk" or "garbage" just because of their particular preference/bias.

Vegas Video 3.0 on WinME? Works just fine for my needs.

WinXP? Probably worth looking into, I am watching the feedback/development of that OS myself. Once more drivers and support from hardware and other Software developers are readily (and stable) available that's probably the way to go. The line between home and business/pro OS is becoming less defined with releases like the two WinXPs. (and the NTFS file support is a major plus, especially for Video Editing)

(again, that's just my input for what it's worth)
Thanks and good luck WAY2SLO on whatever decision you reach...
CAPNDigital

"Another issue that I forgot to mention. Some have problems and some do not. I think it relates to chipsets/mobo. I have a Sony VAIO and SiS components. I have used Win ME and Win XP over the last 14 months with absolutely no problems having ACPI enabled. My system shows 9 different devices assigned to IRQ 9. Yet some swear their only cure is to change the ACPI to standard pc and seaparate all their IRQ's. So, for anyone to say you "have to" disable ACPI is false. I also have no performance loss with ACPI.

GG"

Hey GG
Im running Studio 1 P4 1.7 on Win2k in ACPI mode and Studio 2 P4 1.7 in standard PC mode and I have not had a problem from either system.

George Ware

Hey GG, somebody needs to tell you at times you come off as another Joey D.

You don't agree with my opinion, fine. Your right. Don't try to inject your opinion as superior. Yours is just another opinion. Period. You seem to have a problem, namely you're one of those guys I seem to find in a lot of forums and newsgroups that have some deepseated need to correct other opinions and if possible have the last word. You want to correct factual errors fine, trying to elevate your opinion over everyone else's or having an outburst because you didn't like someone else's opinion simply isn't very professional regardless how much experience you have. Considering how much experience you tell us you do have, you came off a bush league.

As far as credentials or that 'huge technical background' you now seem to be crowing about, you claim to be professional, right? So start acting like it instead of whining like you did over some very trivial changes made to the forum format awhile back. That outbust wasn't very professional either.

Your outbust in this thread is overflowing with YOUR opinions. You didn't present a single fact. You having a bad day or what? Finally if you want respect and that seems to be what your craving, understand that respect is earned. Now you're going to have to work to put back that phony 'nice guy' image. The truth is you seem to have a rather bad temper. You should learn to control it big shot.

thanks everyone for the inputs, i know that in the real world, there is no 'best operating system'. i would do some testing b4 i decide where to go. so far on audio i stick with 98se, video seemed to be pretty good on win2k, again just my opinion.
i think if u r happy with what u have, thats great.
cheers guys!

You're doing it againg GG. Can't you help yourself? I was in no way trying to act superior. You on the other hand seem rather accomplished in doing that. Repeatedly. All anyone has to do to bring it out is just annoy you a little. Like your last rampage all because the forum changed to smaller text. GG just had to threaten he would leave, and never post again if it wasn't fixed. Immedately. Hate to tell you GG, you've got an ego larger than Detroit. You got it in your head the forum revolves around you. While you would be missed, rest assured the rest of us would manage to struggle on without you.

Not only do you crave attention, you apparently demand not just respect but admiration. Sorry, my prayer rug is at the cleaners. Yes you do contribute to this forum. I and others appreciate your help. However if it comes with strings attached, sorry, not interested. While it may come as a shock to you a LOT of people here know a great deal about video editing. This is a peer to peer forum. People help BECAUSE THEY WANT TO. You on the other hand seem to be on some never ending ego trip where you not only demand respect, damn well nobody better express an opinion counter to GG's or there will be hell to pay.

This silly arguement starting simply because I expressed an opinion about ME. Your opinion differs. How dare anyone disagree with GG. That really pissed you off or so it seems from your long-winded reply. Instead of leaving it at that you decided to scold me some more. Talking about spinning, what are you doing? If you read again what I originally said I simply suggested if the person posting the original question had problems with ME, then in MY OPINION he would be better off either using W2K or moving up to XP. Apparently you got your shorts all in a bunch because you happen to like ME. Fine, I know you're in a miniority. Apparently you needed to trot out your "experience" to brag and boast YOU didn't have trouble with ME and how much time you spend in forums, blah, blah, blah "helping". You really need to feed that over sized of ego of yours. I noticed that from the first post of yours I read. Well guess what. I didn't have trouble with ME either. I said I didn't like it. I could post a hundred web site addresses in support of what I said, but of course GG would just say he likes it and that of course caries more weight in the forum according to you. Geez how pathetic.

You needed again to slip in "...I am on many forums sharing information and helping people" Well bully for you. You and an army of thousands of others. That's nice but does nothing to prop up your inexcusable temper tantrum here.

What really has you pissed off is a very innocent and harmless statement saying I and others think ME isn't the best attempt Microsoft every made. If you feel otherwise, that's cool. It isn't cool, professional or proper to try to beat up on someone expressing a differing opinion and that for sure as your trying to do is what has me pissed-off at you. The question is where do you get off? You proved nothing. Sorry, saying you did is as empty as the self praise you seem to need to inject at every opportuntity.

I suggest you really read some of your own words, then just maybe you'll get some understanding how others see you. Here's a example:

"...*** I helped a lot of people and SoFo today. Along with Boris, Sonar and few others. How is your day? Have you been helpful and generous? Or self serving?"

I've met LOTS of prima donnas and pontificating self-important jerks and most of them were in forums and newsgroups. GG, you take the prize. The only guy that comes close to your imagined omnipotence is good old Alan Flavell in CIWAH. He at least does know what he's talking about, but sadly his expertise is also served up with bitter bile if anyone dare disagee with his opinions.

Man don't listen to Dave (LOL)
No really he's very cool, we work on a lot of beta projects together.
He has some really good ideas. If you were to get Dave Hallock, Charles de Montebello and Bruce Richardson of Pro-Rec. in a room together they'll make your head hurt:-0

George Ware

Hey WVG,

You will NOT be using my name in other posts. You take a post up with me one on one if you feel you have any problems with me. k?
I'll walk you're sorry A## around the block a few times.

That is a chicken move man. Those who can't handle their own arguments do this (especially when it's clear that these posters DON'T ARGREE WITH YOUR VIEWS - and rightfully so may I add. YOU sound like the jerk here..just as you did in my posts).

You think your hot stuff WVG - I'm telling you you aren't.

JoeD

Let me be unmistakably clear. Joe D, in my OPINION you are a fool because you insist on trying to use this forum to resolve a personal beef you have with Sonic Foundy. Instead of using email, the phone or sitting down and calmly writing a letter to customer service explaining why you think you are entitled to whatever you think you are entitled to you instead drag out your soapbox to bitch and whine in the forum constantly. My guess is because you like the attention it gets you. I thing everyone is tired of it. You should be kicked off the forum or at least be put on probation. You have serious issues with anger management. I suggest you get help for them.

What is the problem with the reading skills with some people here?

No - read again WVG:

"You will NOT be using my name in any other posts which do not relate to me - especially when trying to argue or belittle yet another poster here"

Chickensh*ts use this technique. BTW: If you have a beef with me, you take it up with ME and ME ALONE.

Get it? Got it? Good!

No anger :)

Hugs and kisses,
JoeD

WVG

He's back! And he's Pi$$ed in "W-V-G 2: WITHOUT PREJUDICE"

He's out to take on the whole SF forum (right after he finishes moms ham sammich that is)

Don't cross WVG or you'll find yourself marked for flame.

"W-V-G 2: WITHOUT PREJUDICE"
(this film is not yet rated)

whatever WVG,
JoeD