Vegas 6 and Sound Forge 7 will be MANY BUGS LIKE Acid 5 ???????

juan2004 wrote on 3/11/2005, 2:22 PM
Yes the topic of the subjet is right, as you read it.

Before been seen the MANY BUGS presents in Vegas 5 and Acid Pro 5, the question what comes to mind of one is: ""Sound Forge 8 and Vegas 6 will be many bugs in the first release as Acid 5??????""

I use Sound Forge since the version 4.5, Acid Pro since the version 1.0 and Vegas since version 3.0. And I rember what NEVER has MANY BIG BUGS, in the firts versions.

The answer to my question is perhaps the next: ""Each new product version comes with new and powerfull features, then to momento to compile the executable (*.exe) it not has TESTED MORE 500 TIMES to find the big bugs, well, I guess it ""

Think about the next sentence:

< Some day the "sons" will back to arms of their true "father" ? >

Sons = all products
Father = Sonic Foundy.


Juan

Bye and take care

Comments

B_JM wrote on 3/11/2005, 5:09 PM
huh ?

i got to get what youve been smoking ....


p@mast3rs wrote on 3/11/2005, 5:42 PM
Maybe Im stupid but I did not understand that post what so ever.
juan2004 wrote on 3/11/2005, 7:26 PM
MMM!

Really each one of you don't understand the post.

Sorry for YOU
What pitty

The next time I will write more easy like for a boy 10 years of ago and you can to read it.

Bye
rextilleon wrote on 3/11/2005, 8:32 PM
Maybe you should write in Spanish -your English is not discernable. We can Google Translate--it certainly will be better then your attempts at written English.
FuTz wrote on 3/11/2005, 10:17 PM
Rah tom hawto po-kay
p@mast3rs wrote on 3/11/2005, 11:58 PM
juan, what does that have to do with the price of eggs?
B_JM wrote on 3/12/2005, 5:30 AM
it still comes down to that vegas 5 (and vegas 4 and 3 before that) is one of the most stable apps around (considering NLE are prone to be not stable - hardware or software based)

bugs (few and fair between) were fixed in updates ....


and if there is so many 'bugs' in acid - i dont see much evidence of this on the acid forums ..



Jay Gladwell wrote on 3/12/2005, 5:47 AM

Patrick, what about his dog???

MyST wrote on 3/12/2005, 6:37 AM
Here are some updates for you to look at, all done under Sonic Foundry.
I guess we've got a few more updates "allowed" for Acid Pro 5.0 before calling it buggier than SoFo released versions, no?


ACID DJ Update 2.0d
ACID DJ Update 3.0g
ACID Hip-Hop Update 2.0d
ACID Latin Update 2.0d
ACID Music Update 3.0g
ACID Pro Update 4.0f
ACID Pro Update 3.0g
ACID Rock Update 2.0d
ACID Techno Update 2.0d
ACID Techno Update 3.0g
CD Architect Update 4.0g
DVD Architect Update 1.0d
Sound Forge Update 6.0e
Sound Forge Update 4.5h
Sound Forge Update 4.0e
Sound Forge XP Update 4.0d
Sound Forge XP Update 4.5h
Vegas Audio LE Update 2.0h
Vegas Audio Update 2.0h
Vegas Video Update 2.0h
Video Capture Update 2.0h

What's that now? Sonic Foundry used to get it perfect the first time? I guess they just wanted to waste money getting all the way to "h".

What you need to understand is that the developers (the very same ones that you hold in such esteem under Sonic Foundry) work very hard at getting the pre-released/released product as stable as possible.
If you want to question their dedication to putting out the best product possible, that's your problem. People who have dealt with them maybe a little more than you have, would never question that. DSE could probably tell you more about that since I think he knows them best.

Mario


Rednroll wrote on 3/12/2005, 9:25 AM
Since he has the need to post the same message in all the forums I therefore should reply to all of them.

Has all of these products that you've mentioned expanded with many new features? Has this inturn caused them to be much more complex from where they started? Doesn't additional complexity of a product open the doors to their to be an increase in the amount of bugs present both in changes to old features and new features? If you expect the Sony media software products to evolve with expanded features, and to work flawlessly on every PC configuration system out there, you have no grasp on reality and obviously have NO experience in developing a product. Sure Sony could spend years testing their software on every system out there to minimize the bugs, then you would be in here complaining that you don't have the latest and greatest gizmo in Vegas/Acid/Forge, like you also do. It's a double edged sword they have to walk.

If your expectations are that every first release doesn't have any bugs, then you should look into purchasing a Protools "turn key" system. Protools therefore designates, what sound card hardware you have to purchase. What type of MAC computer it has to run on and what MAC OS and how everything is configured on that PC. Thus, you're buying the hardware and the software that was tested to be compatible with each other. So go buy that system and keep your ignorant statements to yourself.

BTW: Vegas 5 was one of the most solid releases to date as far as the amount of bugs and the complexity of the program of doing professional video and audio work. Sound Forge 7.0 was pretty solid too with only a few minor bugs as I'm aware of. Compare those to a new Sonar 4.0 release, or a new Wavelab 5.0 release and realize how ignorant and without backing substance your statements are.

PDB wrote on 3/12/2005, 10:04 AM


Rednroll wrote on 3/12/2005, 10:09 AM
Yes it is unnecessary as is the original post, along with the replies of having to talk to us as a ten year old was. It's funny how when some one else posts something "unnecessary", the reply to it is deamed "unnecessary" by you.

Infact your reply was "unnecessary", or do you feel like you're the designated forum Police today? Although you may think the hat looks cute on you, it has no authority in judging what's necessary or unnecessary. Infact your judgement is biased in that it doesn't get to the bottom of the start of the "unnecessary" behavior.
MH_Stevens wrote on 3/12/2005, 10:18 AM
Guys we are misjugeing him. He means he took Acid and then saw bugs.
Rednroll wrote on 3/12/2005, 11:08 AM
Sony has engineers that develop their software in these forums on a regular basis assisting users as well as trying to reproduce a bug a user is complaining about. Sony also has a quality assurance group in place testing their products. Sony recently added forum changes, which allows you to post your system specs, so when users are complaining about a certain bug, the Sony quality group can compare their system specs to better understand why they are seeing a certain bug if they're unable to reproduce the bug. Juan2004 has neither outlined any bugs he has been experiencing, nor has he even filled out his system specifications in his forum profile. So is he posting these messages to just insult the Sony engineers and Sony quality team? Obviously the answer is yes, since he's not lending any assistance to solving a problem or reduce the amount of bugs he's complaining about. His statements are also inacurate as pointed out by many users. PDB, If defending a user like this, that is both insulting the developers of a product who are obviously working hard to reduce the amount of bugs, and further insulting other users who are passionate about that product trying to lend assistance, then I think you need to get your priorities straight when someone comes into these forums and starts a thread by throwing mud and insulting the entire community and then gets a little mud thrown back at them.
FuTz wrote on 3/13/2005, 8:03 AM
MH stevens : lol
.. and he probably did that in Vegas!
PDB wrote on 3/14/2005, 8:03 AM
Marquat.

It's all hunky dory....well, let's let sleeping dogs lie...(you see, if that paragraph hadn't been in Rednroll's post when you answered mine, then I would not have been quoting him...;-) ..unless of course he'd added it as an afterthought in between you reading his post and you reading mine...which come to think of it...oh never mind...)

Anyway, it's ok with me whatever...
Rednroll wrote on 3/14/2005, 10:16 AM
Done
PDB wrote on 3/14/2005, 10:50 AM
OK, me too! (and very glad at that!)

Ps: Marquat, please delete the quote from your post, lest it read like I be the original author.

Thanks,

P.