Vegas 9.0e - a rock solid workhorse!

entilza72 wrote on 9/14/2010, 8:05 PM
This has probably been covered in long dead threads (so forgive me for re-raising it if it has)...

I've been on 9.0e (64 bit) for some time now. I have to say that in working with long, complex HD projects, this version is the beez kneeze for me! I haven't had a single crash.

Previously with 9.0d and earlier, I was having all sorts of crashes on rendering complex HD projects, even more so with things like converting frame rates for output. At the time the product came under a lot of criticism from various people who had similar problems. I know for me, a 15 min project would crash a couple of hours into rendering probably 9 times in 10, at least. I was resorting to doing projects in 4 minute stubs and stringing the rendered output together.

Well, from my point of view its happy days with 9.0e! I'm sure some people will no doubt have had some incidents along the way, but so far for me there have been no problems with 9.0e. Not a one. It has been a rock solid workhorse. No silly workarounds, no repeated crashes with certain project files - just rock solid performance and rendering straight off the project. And thats includes project files that used to crash!

All too often people only speak up when they have a problem or complaint. I just thought I'd show a bit of appreciation for an important product improvement IMHO. Thank you Sony for listening, finding, and fixing! :-)

Cheers,
Jason

Comments

ushere wrote on 9/14/2010, 8:24 PM
i'll second jason's findings - 9e is certainly doing what it's supposed to do, and rock solidly.

and, as jason also pointed out, it took till 9e before the various bugs, whatever were sorted out, so i'm not going to be rushing to 10 till i've read praise of it's stability in these columns too.

i know there's a great deal to be said for progress - such as that introduced in to 10, and getting that at a good price, such as the usual sony 'upgrade deals', however, i have found that jumping in and saving maybe $500 has proved false economy - with both 8 and 9 i must have wasted $1000's in lost time due to crashes, mis-renders, etc., before sony released a 'stable' version.

yes, i also know it was always going to be my fault for jumping in too early - so this time round, i'm going to wait till people gush how great 10 is, then i'll buy and if it costs me full price, so be it - i just don't have the time, patience, and stamina to continue jumping through hoops.

richard-amirault wrote on 9/14/2010, 8:54 PM
... however, i have found that jumping in and saving maybe $500 has proved false economy - with both 8 and 9 i must have wasted $1000's in lost time due to crashes, mis-renders, etc., before sony released a 'stable' version.

Just because you *buy* it does not make it necessary for you to *use* it. Buy it at the limited upgrade price and hold on to it until there is a version stable enough for you .. then download that .. and install it.

A lot better, IMHO, than waiting for the "stable" version and paying full price.
ritsmer wrote on 9/15/2010, 12:22 AM
Second that Vegas 9.0e just works and works and works.
In my setup with full native HD AVCHD 25 Mbps - and it even previews well.

9.0e reminds me of the 8.0c, which also was bedrock stable - but not so fast on some areas as 9.0e.

On the very first release day of 10.0 I will buy and install it - and enjoy all improvements like speed (hopefully) etc. ... but the daily work will be kept on 9.0e until I fell well about the new tool, the changes in the UI etc.

I have newer understood the whiners that popped up here the last time - all saying something like "I am 1 day before final deadline in a MEGA $$$$ project and this morning I changed everything to the new version and blah, whine, blah, whine.."

... but I'm sure we will see them here again.
ushere wrote on 9/15/2010, 1:28 AM
Just because you *buy* it does not make it necessary for you to *use* it. Buy it at the limited upgrade price and hold on to it until there is a version stable enough for you .. then download that .. and install it. A lot better, IMHO, than waiting for the "stable" version and paying full price.

true, true, but the only thing i can't resist is temptation!!! ;-)

gripp wrote on 9/15/2010, 1:45 AM
The motivation to complain is far greater than that to commend, so I just wanted to add that....

...since using v9.0e all the problems with the previous versions (b,c,d) have disappeared givng me a reliable program which is a joy to use.
Rob Franks wrote on 9/15/2010, 4:22 AM
I will certainly agree... 9e has been a work-horse for me. I've run into the odd minor bug but overall the experience has been one of great stability.

We do have to be careful when we talk like this however. Satisfied people for some reason tend to get labeled..... "fanboi'". Go figure??
farss wrote on 9/15/2010, 4:32 AM
One factor easily overlooked is 'risk aversion'.
I used to have AE CS3 crash on me regularly. Hasn't done that in ages recently. Didn't change anything and Adobe stopped updating it years ago. It didn't get any better, I just avoid doing the things that'd make it go bump, without even thinking now.

Same goes for V9.0e. If I put my mind to it I can make it go bump, enabling external preview over firewire is a sure fire way. I just don't do it anymore so I guess I can become a fanboy too?

Actually I never failed to get a job out the door with any version of V9.0 either. I just had to be more careful of avoiding the known holes in the road.

Bob.
LReavis wrote on 9/15/2010, 11:45 AM
I've been using 8c for editing and 9x-64bit for rendering for so long and with such great comfort that I'm hesitant to change my procedure. . . but I would prefer to do it all with just one version.

I don't do firewire out, but what are the other "bumps" that I might encounter with 9e-64bit for editing - apart from some plugins that are only 32-bit? Answers to this question might give me courage to start editing a project in 9e-64bit next time . . .
Randy Brown wrote on 9/15/2010, 12:20 PM
Previously with 9.0d and earlier, I was having all sorts of crashes on rendering complex HD projects, even more so with things like converting frame rates for output. At the time the product came under a lot of criticism from various people who had similar problems. I know for me, a 15 min project would crash a couple of hours into rendering probably 9 times in 10, at least. I was resorting to doing projects in 4 minute stubs and stringing the rendered output together.
That's not very encouraging for me ....thinking I'm about to jump from 8 to 10.
If I buy 9e now (although I'm having issues with the trial) will I get VP 10 for free? It seems if it's within like 30 days of the new release this is standard practice no?
Thanks very much,
Randy
cbrillow wrote on 9/15/2010, 12:33 PM
I think you'd better ask this directly of SCS rather than relying on a response in the forum, which may turn out to be wrong.
i c e wrote on 9/15/2010, 1:49 PM
Hey all.

yes, I like 9.0e. The trial seemed to work perfect for me but now that I just bought the full version I have been having all kinds of crashes. Just playing the video to see where to cut it.. and.. poof! it's gone. Don't know why..


any ideas??

thanks all.

ice
Randy Brown wrote on 9/15/2010, 2:39 PM
I certainly have no idea but maybe support will help now that you bought it. My crashes have mostly been when trying a "selective pre-render" but now I get them when just trying to drag a clip.
I would forget about it and just use 8c but I've started a project now and of course it won't open in the earlier version.
i c e wrote on 9/15/2010, 5:34 PM
Thanks Randy,

Yeah.. 8.0 or 8.1 don't work hardly at all on my 64 bit system. *sigh.

I submitted a ticket. I will call in the morning to see if there is anything to do.

gluk to you man.

ice
Jeff9329 wrote on 9/16/2010, 8:19 AM
Im still on 8.0c which is also rock solid for me as a few others also stated.

That makes it really tough to upgrade to 9 or 10 when the new features are not something you need.
entilza72 wrote on 9/16/2010, 4:21 PM
@ Randy Brown

Sometimes bad codecs can contribute to problems. Its just a fact of life those of us who use PCs have to live with. Codecs can gather like flies over time, and different codecs can be used to playback the same file type through different players.

My advice to any PC user on crashing anywhere near video playback or editing: clean out your codecs! There is a tool (I forget its name - someone here will know) that can show you the "path of codecs" that are being used to playback particular types.

Cheers,
Jason
ritsmer wrote on 9/17/2010, 2:28 AM
On the WMP Help menu, click About Windows Media Player.

If the Help menu is not visible, click Organize, point to Layout, and then select Show menu bar.

On the About Windows Media Player dialog box, click Technical Support Information.

You won't believe what you see :-))
PeterDuke wrote on 9/17/2010, 4:43 AM
Doesn't work with version 9 (no link) but does for version 12. Can I do something similar with 9?
Dach wrote on 9/17/2010, 5:32 AM
I have to say that its not often a thread is fairly balanced in respect to the pros and cons being spoken. Yes, I am enjoying 9e, just like d,c,b,and a.

Looking back on it, I did experience an issue where I colorfully expressed myself. It was a one time experience that I have never experienced since starting with version 3.

Upgrade simply to save money... implement when ready.

I say this in good jest and am not pointing to anyone in this thread, but we can all imagine that there are some people who will blame Vegas because the power goes out during editing.

Chad