Laurence,
I tried the reinstall of everything. Along with others on this forum, it seems to work for a short bit, but then you're back to square one. I haven't found it totally unresponsive... I opened my primary project this morning (been working on it for 3 years), and it took about 15 minutes to open. I know you shouldn't upgrade in the middle of a project, but it was worse with 9c and the red frames. At least with 9d, I can open the project; it takes a while to open, but at least I can use it. Although, I haven't tried to render yet with this project.

I'm not a major Vegas complainer, and I've strongly contemplated switching in the past until I read the complaints of the Adobe users and the [honest] Mac users. I just have to wonder if Sony uses any Beta testers, though. It seems we go through this each upgrade.

I just uninstalled and reinstalled both the 32 bit and 64 bit versions of Vegas. It doesn't seem to make much difference. I am going to get around this for this project by rendering out one large Cineform file with markers and working from that (like I used to have to for HDV mpeg2 when I had the same problem there). It took me quite a few attempts to get 30 cineform clips on a single timeline. If this is at all like my earlier (7e) HDV problems, and the symptoms are exactly the same, this will get me around this and at least let me work.

Does anyone know where I can download the earlier versions of Vegas 9? The current one has a lot of nice fixes, but Cineform handling seems to be broken.

>I'm not a major Vegas complainer, and I've strongly contemplated switching in the past until I read the complaints of the Adobe users and the [honest] Mac users. I just have to wonder if Sony uses any Beta testers, though. It seems we go through this each upgrade.

We are all Vegas beta testers. Maybe not officially, but in any practical terms, we are.

Someone else posted this link: http://download.sonymediasoftware.com/current/

Thanks. Vegas just crashed now on my render of the 30 clips into one clip. I suppose the only way to work will be to downgrade. Unfortunate since this means downgrading Vegas, Quicktime, and iTunes. Such is the life of an unofficial beta tester I suppose.

OK I'm back on Vegas 9c and Cineform works like it should. Definitely a version 7d problem.

Again the problem is very similar to earlier ones Vegas had with HDV format m2t mpeg2 clips:

When I try to click on a Cineform clip in the Vegas Explorer window, it takes Vegas a second or two to recognize it. If I drag it on a timeline, Vegas pauses a little. If I grab five or six clips at once and drag them onto a timeline, this slowness is exaggerated. Vegas goes into a sort of "thinking mode" for up to several minutes. As I drag more Cineform clips to the timeline it gets worse and worse. If I try to grab twenty or more clips at once, Vegas will just freeze up entirely. With 9c there is none of this.

I really wish I was an official Vegas beta tester. I would definitely catch stuff like this before a general release.

Having the exact same issue, long load times (over 10 minutes for a basic 2 minute cuts-only project) and when I try to preview Cineform clips in the media explorer, it hangs for like 30 seconds before it will play. Try and grab 5 Cineform clips to drag into the project media folder and total lockup.

I have tried the ctrl+shift thingy, an uninstall-reinstall, and the aviplug.dll replacement- nothing helps. When I tried to go back to 9.0c, Vegas would not recognize any media files at all. My media folders all showed empty, and when I tried to import a clip, Vegas said it would not recognize the file. And I got the missing file popup after opening a previous project.

Cineform told me its on Sony's end and that they know about the problem. I don't know that for sure since there has been no word from an official Sony rep on this load time issue. I submitted a support question last week- no response yet.

This is a puzzle, my 64bit Vista machine can't read the cineform avi's in Vegas 9 (c or d) but my 32 bit laptop has no trouble in 9c or 9d. I am not sure this is a Vegas 64 issue, a Vista issue (registry corruption with the codec?), or just a codec that is not 64bit compatible.

For now, I use my laptop to render the Cineform AVI's to video for Windows AVI format and that fixes the issue. An extra step but at least I have a workaround. Luckily, I don't use AVI's very often anymore.

Mike

I finally took the bait and installed 9d-64 (after creating a disk image of my boot disk, uninstalling 9c-64, and running ccleaner). The first .VEG I opened - a 41-min project, fairly complex - opened quickly and seemed responsive.

Pushing my luck, I opened a 1-hr, 40-min. .Veg that was full of Cineform clips. It took 12 min. to open - much longer than in 9c. But it did seem to operate normally once opened, including various operations on one of the Cineform clips from the within Project Media window.

I'm relieved - and plan to keep 9d unless further experience reveals hidden problems. I don't mind a 12-min. load all that much with a really complex project, for I only open the 64-bit version of Vegas for rendering final projects.

Edit: Incidentally, when I re-opened the long project immediately after closing it, it loaded almost instantly (I remember reading that some were having long load times even after having loaded a troublesome .VEG).

Another edit a day later: I played around with the explorer window - previewing .AVIs, etc. - and all seems normal, including the Cineform clips. Even though I did experience the long load time on one .VEG (the others seem to load OK), it seems that I'm not experiencing the really bad problems that others are suffering.