thanks bob.
now does this function as a controller/soundard with seperate I/O? i want to record simultaneous tracks at once.... and i want to make SURE it works with VEGAS!

http://www.mackie.com/products/mcu/index.html
Garanteed to work with vegas.
Check this out
The alesis is not a controller
Jimmy

I don't know if the Alesis can be programmed or not. the Mackie can be easily used, we've got 3 of them plus the XTenders in two rooms. Personally, I love em. John Rofrano just got the Frontier too, but that needs programming. Maybe you could convince him to share his settings w/you.

The Makie MCU is only a controller though, right? It doesn't do any audio I/O. For me, the Alesis would be preferable as i would need the I/O more than i would need a controller. Are there any that do both?

thanks all.
like chienworks said, i want both. i want essentially, the ssame setup as the protools digi 002... the mixing board, with 8 I/O, that also funtions as a controller.
i would love to stay with VEGAS for my audio needs... but the whole package that pro tools offers does look appealing.
i would much rather just get something that works with vegas, as i am very happy with it as an audio program. i dont care for mixing down using a mouse.. i need the faders. i need more than one input (i aslo need at least 4 INs....)

anybody have a setup similar to what i have discribed?
please share!
pj

I'll probably get yelled at by a certain user and get accused of trying to lead users away from this forum, but a lot of the Vegas audio users no longer hang out in the Vegas "audio" forum. For the record that's not my intention, please feel free to visit the Sony forums and ask questions, but as you noticed you didn't get many takers.

FYI, a lot of the Vegas "Audio" users hang out in this forum and you could probably get some useful suggestions over there:

www.crossfade-forums.net

Another good forum with a multitude of users from various different audio apps is here:

http://www.kvraudio.com/

The Scott Garrigus forums are also pretty good for Sony users:

http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/discuss.asp

That would be the order of preferences I would would search for some more responses to your question.

If you want the control surface AND the mixer capability then the digital desks from Yamaha have been pressed into service with Vegas running in Mackie emulation.
I'd do quite a bit of research into just what you're getting into though.
Look at the signal flow and understand all the implications of that in your proposed workflow and application. Digital desks are a bit on the nose down here after 11 minutes of audio was lost during an OB that was being fed globally, millions of dollars worth of Euphonics kit I believe got replaced with tried and true analogue equipment.
Also bear in mind that Protools isn't know as Slotools for nothing.
Bob.

I use the Mackie Universal Controller to control both Vegas and ProTools with my Digi002 rack.

I have not tried recording through the Digi002 into Vegas because I am used to ProTools and really like it.

In fact, I haven't even tried to output audio from Vegas to the Digi002 yet. Sounds like a good experiment though.

Jeron

"In fact, I haven't even tried to output audio from Vegas to the Digi002 yet. Sounds like a good experiment though."

FYI, make sure you use the ASIO driver with the Digi002. The wave driver is limited in it's functionality as far as simultaneous playback and recording, along with a few other related problems when used with the Sony apps.

tascam has a firewire controller/soundcard out there.. the tascap 1614 or something.. 1814 maybe?
seems like that would be just the ticket.. but everyone i ask never can give me a definite aswere... they all say, it should work... well... should isnt good enough i guess.
sony should really make a controller that is 100% compatable with vegas.. a controll/ IN/out mixer.

i have a yamaha MD8 track. i love it... i wish some how, some way i could import all the tracks from the MD disks to VEGAS.... i would love to be able to record without the computer, but use the computer (vegas) to edit, mix, effect, and master my recordings.

but the MD is encoded...(good old sony)
i looked into getting a MD drive, thinking maybe i could import my recording sessions from the yamaha MD8 onto my computer (and into vegas)
but no go, as far as im aware anyhow...
anyone know any different?

i want a controller i can plug my audio sources into and record record record... and only goto my computer when im fnished recording...

there has to be something out there that would make me HAPPY!

thanks everyone!
pj

EDIT: again, i have NO MIDI. i need what im looking for to be firewire!

In addition to the suggestions above, you also have Tascam's FW1084 and 1884, M-Audio's Project Mix I/O, and Yamaha's O1X. I believe all will run Mackie Control emulation mode, or could at least be configured as a generic midi controller in Vegas (the M-Audio does HUI, Mackie and Logic Control emulation).

While reviewing a CME UF8 controller, I was able to control Vegas with it with no problem (nice thing about Vegas' controller implementation - somewhat flexible for assigning transports, controls, etc as long as the controller's implementation is midi/sysex).

I believe, but correct me if I'm wrong, the Mackie Onyx series only allows 2 channel monitoring (i.e. no submixes or headphone mixes from the audio app - has to be submixed on the mixer).

I didn't realize the Digi002 had ASIO drivers. I always thought Digi aschewed ASIO and VST to maintain their proprietary approach (RTAS, DAE, TDM, etc) across the product line. Learn something new everyday.

The Onyx would probably have the highest quality pres, as long as you only need 2 channel monitoring from the audio app, but without A/B'ing them all, that is hard to say. The 01X is a fully digital mixer, which makes it fully recallable - not so with the Onyx.

Don't know if it's got enough tracks for you but my Edirol R4 works a treat, at the end of the session just drag the files via USB into the PC and open with Vegas, much faster than R/T.
Alesis also make hard disk recorders with MANY tracks and I think you can daisy chain any number of them, again just drag and drop stuff.
But perhaps I;ve misunderstood you, do you perhaps want to record into the PC without having to be physically near it. I guess you want a console that gives you mixing control, transport control etc that can be remote from the PC?

You could do this with say the Alesis mixer and a shuttle controller, just program the buttons on the Shuttle to make one Record.
Personally I prefer having the PC screen, like to check the waveforms while I'm recording.
Bob.

i was looking for a controller along with inputs (a soundcard).
but, what you are talking of sounds even better... i like to be able to record with the computer off...
my brother has a roland digital 16 track... is it possible to import those aduio tracks to a computer? (not RCA...) and into vegas? (there is no firewire port on the unit.. just analog out, and midi..
you can create a data disc on the roland... i tried opening it on my pc... but no luck...

originally i wanted just something like the digi 002 setup, that does require the computer.. but now that you speak of the edirol R4... now, does that fuction as a controller? or just a stand alone unit that you transfere files off of to the computer?

thanks for all the info everyone!
pj

The R4 is basically a 4 channel field recorder, well a pretty good one at that but certainly not a control surface.
But the Alesis HD recorders (which are just that, recorders) just write regular .wav files as far as I know, just drag the files into the PC.
www.sweetwater.com is a pretty decent place to find just about every audio widget known to man, I've had excellent service from them and I'm half a world away but their website makes it pretty easy to check out anything you're after.

Bob.