Vegas Capture - Print to Tape / Capture for over 20 minutes, 4 gig on win 9x

thx1200 wrote on 2/18/2001, 3:17 PM
Is there a way, using Vegas' Video Capture, to print to
tape greater than 20 minutes or 4 gigabytes worth of video
at a time? For that matter, is there a way to capture
greater than 20 minutes at a time? A sensible solution for
capturing would be to automatically start a new clip after
20 minutes with no interruption in the actual capturing
process. For printing to tape, the opposite, send multiple
clips end-to-end automatically that were produced in
Vegas. I can't find a way to do this and its highly
agitating and it seems to be an extremely simple feature
that could be added very easily to the capture program...
Any help for me, Sonic Foundry?!? Please! :-)

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Caruso wrote on 2/18/2001, 8:43 PM
You obviously are aware that the limitation you describe is
imposed by the Windows Fat32 filing system. Right now, I'd
be happy if I could print to tape altogether. Just
purchased VV20 this week. Have had a ball editing with the
program, but, for the life of me, I can't figure out how to
get anything back out to tape. Well, ok, I can preview to
external monitor, which runs through my DV camcorder, but
the results are poor. All transitions are recompressed,
and look awful.

For some reason, the VegasCapture module will play avi
renderings on the computer screen, and, in some cases, by
lowering the frame rate, I've been able to view on my
camcorder/external monitor, but, most of the time when I
click on the green camcorder icon, I get an error message.
I always get this message if I click on the "red" camcorder
icon (the one that is supposed to arm my system for print
to tape). There error message states that an unknown error
has occured. Clicking details reveals the explanation that
the "pins" are not connected, whatever that means.

I run a dual boot system, WinME and Win2000. I have Build
302 running on ME, and that's the setup that allows me to
view on my camcorder some of the time.

I have the downloaded update of VV installed on the Win2000
side, and VegasCapture won't run at all there. I get an
error message stating that an unknown error has occured and
that the program needs to be restarted. If I uninstall the
update and reinstall build 302, neither program will run.

Hopefully, someone can point me in the right direction. I
figure I must be doing something wrong. Such a full-
featured program couldn't be that bad in the print to tape
area.

By the way, my machine is a 900 Mhz/128meg with an external
80 gig Maxtor and two internal 30 gig maxtors. My DV
interface is through the 1394 port on a Pinnacle SDV board.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Caruso
thx1200 wrote on 2/19/2001, 10:32 AM
Yea... I'm totally aware of the fat32 limitation.. that's
why i was hoping a feature to accept multiple files to be
spit back to tape, and captures to be automatically split
into multiple files would be nice added features.. sigh!
:-) (I was REALLY hoping these features already exist and
somebody could point me in the right direction)

As for your problem, my friend... Are you doing "render as"
and selecting the preset type "NTSC - DV"? Video Capture
can ONLY spit files to the camera that are "DV ready" and
prerendered as DV files back to tape. If you are in the
states, that's NTSC - DV, if you are in the UK, that's PAL -
DV.. :-) If you do not render the files as such, they
wont be recognized by your camera and you wont get any
image displayed on the screen.. And, worst of all, Video
Capture will spit out a STUPID error about your camera
(like you posted) rather than just saying "this is not a DV-
ready file." Video capture can not and does not recompress
the frames for you... Another silly Sonic Foundry hack...
After Sound Forge 4.5, I should expect this by now!

Honestly, as powerful as Vegas is, and as much as it costs,
I am honestly surprised and shocked at how much of a hack-
job Video Capture seems to be. These features shold be
INCORPORATED INTO vegas. Since you can already "preview"
through firewire, you should also be able to capture AND
print-to-tape in the same program! Putting it in a
seperate program makes NO SENSE except that it was cheap
and easy!

TO BE FAIR, I absoluetly LOVE vegas' editing capabilities
and I honestly think is the easiest to use in the biz and
SUPER powerful and STABLE as a rock.... BUT i feel crippled
that it cant do simple things like AUTOMATICALLY capture to
two or three files if the time goes over 20 minutes...
That's so silly! Movies run over 20 minutes sometimes, and
some of us are doing work that doesnt compress down to
windows media files for the web! Heheh....

Hopefully they will see my message and add these features
to Video Capture!! Then I will be a happy camper.