Vegas/Cinescore confusion

LarsHD wrote on 4/3/2009, 1:35 PM
I have a project that is loaded in 8.0c
From withing 8.0c I add music with Cinnescore
I save the project

I close 8.0c and launch Vegas 8.1
Now I expect to play the project and hear the music.

Sure enough... I hear music. But not the music I added. Now I hear different Cinescore music that somehow Sonay Vegas /Cine has chosen behind my back!!! It isn't the same music as I had in 8.0c.


There simply has to be better control over this Cinescore / 8.0c / 8.1 business!

I spend time using the products I have purchased and after I done some real good job suddenly Sony CHANGES my choice of music!!!


Arghhhhhhhhhhhhh

:( :(


Lars




Comments

kairosmatt wrote on 4/3/2009, 1:43 PM
I don't have 8.1 loaded up in front of me, but I don't think the cinescore plugin works in there.

But the wave file it creates should be the same...

When you open Cinescore, make sure you use the output settings to give it your own name and file location. I have also had this problem because by default cinescore makes generic numbered file names. Hevean help you if you end up with more than one "cinesocre music 17." Or worse yet, working on different computers than trying to back them all up together...you end up with all kinds of doubles and headaches. Now I always always always name and set the output folder. First thing right away.

kairosmatt
JJKizak wrote on 4/3/2009, 1:47 PM
Cinescore does not work in Vegas 8.1. Why are you trying to violate the laws of physics?
JJK
LarsHD wrote on 4/3/2009, 3:01 PM
Well, I assumed that the *WAV* files that Cinescore produced for me in 8.0c should really not change into something else... But apparently this wave file is somehow connected and depending on something that can be "re-connected" ....

I'll look into the advice two posts up as this may be relevant in this case.

Best & thanks fort the help
Lars
bStro wrote on 4/3/2009, 3:07 PM
Haven't got an answer, but I'm curious: The "new" music, is it a WAV file that you've created or didn't come out of nowhere? And does it sound like it's from the same theme as your original music or a different one?

Oh also, if you run 8.0c, which music do you hear now?

Rob
JJKizak wrote on 4/3/2009, 4:43 PM
I have found if the Cinescore files are rendered they seem to play back ok in 8.1. This is true with several old projects that I opened up in 8.1 created from 8.0c.
JJK
LarsHD wrote on 4/4/2009, 1:40 PM
1. 8.0c in XP32. right clicking on an empty audio track and generating 1 minute of music. OK. Track renedered on that audio track. Plays back ok.

2. Going to Vista 64 and opening 8.0c. Opening the project that was made in XP 32. Now I hear a different piece of music.


My computer has two OS hard drives. So all installs are totally separeted. The Cinescore install on XP 32 bit is adfferent install from the Conescore on the Vista 64 bit drive.

Are the installs and numbering or labelling of music files in Cinescore sort of coming out randomly / differently each time you make an install.


What is this??



best,
Lars
LarsHD wrote on 4/4/2009, 1:56 PM
Creating the generating music in 8.0c in Windows XP 32. The music is "Punky Brewstaa" . Saving the project.

Opening the project in Vista 64 but still in 8.0c that I have installed here. Now the music that is played is "Ibiza Louise"

This is as silly as typing in "SONY VEGAS PRO 8" in XP 32 and then when plying the project from another OS drive it sasy "SONY PREMIER CUT"


Can anybody help me out of this Cinescore-Surprise-mess...?

Can I check the numbering / order or something of the different installs?

best
Lars
kairosmatt wrote on 4/5/2009, 6:28 AM
So you have a dual boot system? That may be the problem.

On my dual boot, XP calls its partition C and Vista's E. In Vista, its vice versa. Each has its own C:\My docs.

Cinescore defaults to creating music in C:\my docs\my music\cinescore music file.

So when you open vista, its going to what it thinks is the right folder, but is acutually on the wrong partition.

Because of the default generic numbered naming scheme, there might already be a file with the same number in the Vista project as the .wav file in the XP project. Cinesocre just picks that, but of course, that would be from a totally different project (one in which you started in Vista and used "Ibiza Louise")

Check that and see if that makes a difference, like I said above I've become fanatical in cinescore with changing the name and file location, because it saves me many headaches in the long run (not the least of which is trying to keep up with back-up).

kairosmatt

MarkWWW wrote on 4/5/2009, 10:25 AM
Ah that's your problem then - you are dual booting.

In that situation you have two completely different installation of Vegas & Cinescore which know nothing of each other's existence. If you want to share projects between the two operating system installations then you need to make sure that the locations where you store the various media files exist under both operating systems. This will typically be OK when you are saving files to specific places (e.g. a separate data drive) as they will be accessible to both systems. But if you use the default locations for internally referenced/created files then this will probably cause you problems as they will typically be in areas that the other operating system cannot see (or does not get to in the same way.)

In particular these will include anything in the "My Documents" folder or its sub folders. If you continue to use these locations you run the risk of having files apparently disappearing, being replaced by older versions, or even completely different content, as you move from one OS to the other.

I suspect that if you make sure that both your Cinescore installations are using the same (preferably external) directory to store their output you will find that this problem goes away. What do you currently have for "Options|Preferences|Default output folder" in each installation?

Mark
blink3times wrote on 4/5/2009, 12:20 PM
It sounds to me like Sony isn't changing anything.... you are.

If you're dual booting then it is important to set up your data files on a completely different drive. I keep my "My Documents" folder on D drive and I set up BOTH os's this way. I also make sure that each OS sees the "my Documents" folder as being on D drive.

I think kairosmatt is absolutely correct. You're not only opening 2 different programs on 2 different OS's... but you're also opening up 2 completely different projects and mistaking them for one and the same.
LarsHD wrote on 4/5/2009, 12:34 PM
XP 32 install:
C:\Documents and Settings\Lars\My Documents\Sony Cinescore 1.0 Music

Vista install:
C:\Users\Lars\Documents\Sony Cinescore 1.0 Music


So yes the paths are not identical.

1 - But... Why did it select different music....?

2 - What action do I take here - putting them on an identical path or having them share a folder on my stream drive for instance?



Best
Lars

blink3times wrote on 4/5/2009, 12:39 PM
Pick ONE project out of the 2 that you have created and save it to D drive, (or F drive.... any drive but C)... then make sure BOTH os's see that drive that you have selected as D drive
LarsHD wrote on 4/5/2009, 1:08 PM
OK, I created a folder on my streaming drive and pointed both installs to that (in options/prefs/output folder) and now I can jump between installs and it seems to work fine! :)

Thanks a lot for your help guys! :)


Lars