Point taken. I just wanted people to know the gossip being spread on other forums which is most likely false.

Marc

That is actually I fear that I had about Vegas with the recent Sony acquisition, so it could just be somebody trying to scare people away that haven't bought Vegas yet.

Cripes, Here we go again,...I just read the DV.com thread at their site, and just after I'm finally breaking ground and getting comfortable with Vegas after making the big leap from Premiere,...Vegas is forcasted for death. You know what,...go ahead,...I can't keep playing this NLE musical chairs. I love Vegas 4,..it's rock solid and I'm not pushing anymore panic buttons. I have to believe that rumors are nothing but rumors and until the program is buried,..I'm not leaving! It handles all that I need and a bunch more, so I have a long future with this app. I just don't think Sony will drop it,...but I can't keep worrying about something that I have no control over at this point.

I agree... Vegas is so good as it is right now I can't imagine Sony would so stupid as to kill it. I'm actually expecting some hardware support (or at least dreaming about it) and hopefully more R & D monies put behind the talented programming team. Even if it was never updated it would continue to get better as the computer speeds increase and be a useful program for quite a while. Plus we'll still have to see if Adobe can really deliver a stable full featured Premiere as right now it's still vaporware and Vegas 4 is not.

Marc

I second that emotion......

I jumped from MediaStudio because they kept breaking stuff when trying to fix other broken stuff - it drove me nuts! Pinnacle before that....

If there's a Vegas 5 - I'm in! If not - I'll stick with 4 until my creativity outpaces it's capabilitiies (if I live that long....)

Andy

Hi,

It looks as though Adobes "vapourware" will be making an appearance at the end of August.
Visit: http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/main.html

It doesn't matter to me, and probably every other Vegas user.
Wild horses couldn't get me to leave Vegas.
As far as I am concerned, all the other NLE applications are chasing the high standards set by SF.

But, Adobe Encore?
Yep, I'll be taking a good look at that.
DVDA could turn out to be a polished and professional package.
But I feel it took a few wrong turns.
The option of using elementary streams took some getting used to, but eventually I have. Still not sure what advantage it provides though.
But I think the biggest mistake was the choice to use XML for theme creation.
Most video people are "creatives" not programmers or script writers.
I want to be able to create all my graphics in Photoshop and save the finished layout as a template.
So, I have a sneaking feeling that Adobe Encore will be tempting me for my DVD authoring.

Regards
Organism Seven

I am happy with SF customer support. It doesn't seem to have lessened due to the aquisition.

I can however understand the concern since Sony is NOT a customer oriented company. I guess the fear is that Sony will someday "streamline" staffing or make other changes in the Vegas division thereby turning off an otherwise enthusiastic group of employees.

John

Agreed completely about Encore.

Mulltiple Audio Streams, Subtitles..... mmmm goood

When I purchase I'll probably get the whole DV Package and will be able to play with the new Premiere, but right now (and probably for quite a while) Vegas is the top-notch for me.

I don't even see Premiere 7 as a threat. Adobe has PROVEN that they are right andthe customer is wrong (in a smart ass way). I use Premiere 6 at work and have 1) wanted to go back to 5 but can't (hardware doesn't support it) and 2) want vegas instead! Adobe will throw all these extras in for people to buy their product (which is made for profesional use but is bundled with $200 capture cards), but would you buy a 300 pound bag of dog poop if it came with a free scooper, air freshner, and bear goggles?

My guess is that Adobe sees Vegas as a threat. In addition, most retailers don't have a big stake in Vegas compared to Premiere. They have more to gain by bashing Vegas and pushing Premiere. Premiere brings more add-on sales of hardware and plug-ins.

Well today another B & H guy said the original B & H was out of line. He also said that he has access to any program he wants to use and he uses Vegas. That said the new Premiere does look interesting and the integration with other Adobe programs is nice. I read through their detailed .pdf and many features we love Vegas for made it into Premiere Pro including some nice ones that Vegas does not have. My guess is they have a few copies of Vegas floating around the office and the new Premiere would not have nearly as many features if not for Vegas and Final Cut. Whether Premiere performs or not we will have to wait and see.

Marc

I have not seen the quote Marc mentions but I do know that there are actual quotes from SoFo and Sony that could be thought of as 'not good'. For example Rimas Buinevicius is qouted as saying that SoFo took the "desktop line as far as we" (Sonic Foundry) could take it thusly Sony purchasing it was a good thing. Some could read into that as lack of faith in the SoFo team that actually develops Vegas Video or Sound Forge. You could also read that, as far as VV goes, beyond Version 4 there would be nothing more had Sony not purchased Sonic Foundry. As for SoFo itself they will concentrate on web based items such as the expensive Media Site Live, which someone could misread as the abandonment of Vegas Video instead of getting that SoFo is no longer 'in control' of Vegas Video. And one other little item that sort of slipped by was that in May Deluxe bought Sonic Foundry's Media Services Division.

On the Sony side you would think there would be a firm "We are not going to discontinue The Sonic Foundry line" but instead you get statments about how Sony expects "the products will retain their names" and how they intend to keep the Madison team/office intact. As most of us know words like "intend" and "expect" are not sure things. One thing they seem to be *sure* about is saying "As we (Sony) expand our Screenblast service the Sonic Foundry software is natural extension of it." And what does that mean exactly given that "Screenblast" was/is Sonic Foundry software anyway?

Bottom line is time will tell. One thing that almost everyone who has dealt with Sony knows - they have an elitist attitude and their tech support follows suite. Sony has stated that SoFo's tech support will remain 'as is' but I wonder for how long. Is it just for the transition from current versions to the next revamped Sony versions? Or will it be for as long as Acid, VV and Sound Forge are in existance? Will Sony Viao's now be shipped with VV included? And if it doesn't work will tech support just blame the user or the software like they do now? I can see the tech support now -

Q - "Vegas Video Plays Stuttered or Drops Frames in the Timeline."

Sony Answer - "This issue occurs when you have 'ignore third party codecs' checked in Vegas Video. To use the Sony DV codec you need to check the 'Use Sony DV codec' option ."

VV Tech Answer - "This issue occurs when you use the Sony DV codec to compress footage rather than the Vegas Video DV codec. Vegas prefers it's own built in DV codec for smooth playback when exporting video."

He he. ;)

Well... whatever they do please give it a better name and not screenblast! Screenblast is ten time worse than Vegas and Vegas is pretty bad. Like it or not the name creates a perception especially with people that have never used the software. A better name could mean better sales and that's a good thing.

Marc