This is a good point. Those of us who build our own PC's know that the first thing you do after installing the OS is to install the latest chipset and other drivers. People who might just be upgrading an existing store bought PC from XP to Vista or Windows 7 might not realize this. Before any OS upgrade you must make sure that your motherboard manufacturer provides chipset drivers for that OS and then you must update the chipset drivers right after the OS installation is complete. Never use the drivers from Microsoft. They are only provided to make things "work" but they will not work optimally until the manufacture's drivers are installed.

~jr

Excuse me for my ignorance, but:

1) How do I update my five Samsung hard discs with new sata drivers?
2) When you say "update the chipset drivers", is this the same as updating my Bios?

Jøran Toresen

1) How do I update my five Samsung hard discs with new sata drivers?

Joran, in my experience with Seagate and Western Digital, they don't supply SATA drivers. Instead there may occasionally be a firmware update, but that has been pretty rare.

The chipset driver is different from the bios. Both of those should come from the manufacturer of your PC.

Jerry

> 1) How do I update my five Samsung hard discs with new sata drivers?

These are not drivers for the hard disk. They are drivers for the hard disk SATA Controller Interface. This is on your motherboard. In my case I have an Intel D975XBX2 motherboard. This motherboard has two SATA interfaces. One is an Intel ICH7R SATA RAID Controller and the other is a Marvel 61xx RAID Controller. On the Intel web site there are drivers for both of these interfaces that needed updating.

> 2) When you say "update the chipset drivers", is this the same as updating my Bios?

As TeeTime said, no. BUT sometimes you must update the BIOS and the Chipset together! Usually the installation instructions will tell you that the chipset drivers require a certain BIOS level. The chipset is the controller chip on your motherboard. Maybe you've seen motherboards an different prices points and some use the P55 chipset, while others use the P45, or X58 or X48, etc. This is a cost factor and the better motherboards have better chipsets. The chipset drivers are a collection of INF files that tell Windows how to interact with the motherboard (USB, PCI, PCIe, ATA, etc.).

If you have never built your own PC you would never know about this because your PC manufacturer takes care of this for you. If you build your own PC and don't know about this, you probably shouldn't be building your own. ;-)

Microsoft is very deceptive in making people think that they can just upgrade to Windows 7. If your PC manufacturer or motherboard doesn't support it, it is not a good idea to upgrade because you will have trouble and you will be on your own to fix it.

~jr

Thanks Jerry and Johnny for your in-depth explanation. I learn something new every day.

Jøran Toresen

Very interesting!
I use Vegas 9c 32 bit on a Vista mashine. It works fine, excpet it runs out of memory often during rendering, even though I have 3 Gb memory.
Anyway, our second inhouse mashine is newer. Custom built by a local dealer. Windows 7 64 bit, i7, 12 Gb Ram, 2x500Gb Harddrives. We run Vegas 9c 64 bit on it. It is much faster than the Vista 32 bit mashine, of course. However, it does crash. Almost all the time. My poor assistant editor is working with that mashine and his hair is getting grey and start to fall off because of these crashes. :)
so this thread was interesting to read. As we are video editors here, not computer experts, how do we update all those SATA drivers mentioned? Any other tips an what the cause of the crashes can be?
We mainly edit HDV material, and occasionallt bring in other formats. But it is when editing HDV that it mostly occurs. Especially when having 10 or more tracks onthe timeline.
It also seems that the computer hardly ever uses more than 3-4 Gb RAM, even though it has 12 Gb built in. Can that be something related?
Martin, Leisborn Media
www.leisbornmedia.se

Martin_L:
First you need to know the exact model and manufacturer of your motherboard. Then you go to the motherboard website support/update/drivers/bios. Carefully select the drivers {many will be listed to confuse you} and download and install them according to the instructions on the website.
JJK

"So I updated Sata drivers and motherboard chipset drivers and it fixed all the issues. this might save someone some headaches."

So the problems really weren't "bugs" if upgrading drivers fix the issues, right?