Vegas Disappears...

JazzyG wrote on 5/11/2006, 2:12 PM
Hello members, I have been using Vegas 5 for two years without problems, until today. I was working on a project when all of a sudden, Vegas dissapears from the screen, whoosh, gone! I restart the Vegas again, work for an hour or so, and bam, its gone again.

So I shut down my pc, let it cool off, restart, bring up Vegas, start working on my project and all seems ok. So I start to render my project and whoosh, Vegas is gone again. Has anyone had similiar problems and do you know of a remedy to the problem? Pls assist.

JazzyG

Comments

rmack350 wrote on 5/11/2006, 2:52 PM
Got Cats?

JazzyG wrote on 5/11/2006, 3:14 PM
No Cats...
soaringrocks wrote on 5/11/2006, 3:15 PM
Are you having any other problems with your system? or is it just Vegas that messes up?

Have you added any HW or software lately? Updated any drivers?

Have you run windows update recently? (do so)

Have you run a virus check, spyware check? (do this too)

Have you tried to reinstall Vegas? (reasonable to try)

The essense of troubleshooting is elimination. Box in the problem and keep disecting until you have narrowed the field. What you describe could be a lot of things from failing hardware, to software corruption, to rmack's cats.

Keep at it!

AlanC wrote on 5/11/2006, 3:46 PM
Sounds very much like one of the old Pinnacle traits :~)
soaringrocks wrote on 5/11/2006, 4:00 PM
A Pinnacle trait? Hmm, maybe if you changed 2 years of working into 2 minutes of working and we'd be able to say it's a similar problem. :-)
Tech Diver wrote on 5/11/2006, 4:05 PM
All this talk about Pinnacle is bringing back bad memories. I'll probably start having nightmares again :-)
MH_Stevens wrote on 5/11/2006, 4:05 PM
Try a "System Restore" to a time when it was OK. Then update Windows, Defrag and all the other good housekeeping things. A reinstall would be my next move if this does not work.

fldave wrote on 5/11/2006, 4:10 PM
I would check for dust/cooties in your PC first.

Open your PC up. If you see a lot of dust around the fans/cpu, clean it up. Then see if that helps.
Grazie wrote on 5/11/2006, 4:31 PM
Just when I thought . .they DRAG me back in!!!


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Tech Diver wrote on 5/11/2006, 4:32 PM
JazzyG, I don't believe you ever mentioned whether this is a general problem, or if it is caused by a specific Veg file. Some effects have been known to cause errors. Are you using any features that you have never used before?

Being in the software industry, I would say this sounds very typical of either a memory leak, or an attempted access of an illegal memory address.
wolfbass wrote on 5/11/2006, 4:40 PM
From a guy in Oz:

What the hell ARE cooties?

I hear this word in movies, but never knew what it meant.

Sorry to get off track!
JazzyG wrote on 5/11/2006, 4:41 PM
Tech Driver

Its amanzing you said that. I just started using some digital juice products, in fact I am using editors tool kit 8. I am using some of the overlays, and backgrounds in this project. Is this the source of my discomfort?
fldave wrote on 5/11/2006, 4:46 PM
Here you go wolf...Cooties
And here is a pic from Grazie of cooties that he just posted above...Grazie's Cooties
Grazie wrote on 5/11/2006, 4:47 PM
Originally BODY lice - but is used to make a disgusting remark about the opposite sex. Yeah, I know . . .

Grazie
Grazie wrote on 5/11/2006, 4:48 PM

. . I gotta get out more . . LOL!! Now THAT Cootie is quite charming and kinda cuddly ..
Tech Diver wrote on 5/11/2006, 4:50 PM
Try saving your project under another name and then remove all the "new" effects. If your problems disappear (instead of Vegas itself), you know the cause.
fldave wrote on 5/11/2006, 4:51 PM
Hey Grazie, we keep this going, you may get another jacket next year :)

JazzyG, not to belittle you're problem. Clean PC is vital for cooling!
wolfbass wrote on 5/11/2006, 5:11 PM
aha! Thanks for that!

We call then crabs down here. As in:

What's the difference between Crabs and Lobsters?

Crabs walk sideways.

Ah, OK, I must have lobsters then!

P.S. Grazie: Your PC innards are similar to mine. Must clean!
fldave wrote on 5/11/2006, 5:18 PM
Of course, I use the term "cootie" as in "Ooooohh, yuck" instead of the original meaning. No offense, Grazie.

If the new effects, backgrounds cause a lot of extra cpu peaking, then a cooling problem could push the system over the edge.

It could just be one of the effects not performing correctly, or incompatible with your current system state.
Tech Diver wrote on 5/11/2006, 6:30 PM
I think that the heat issue (in this instance) is rather unlikely. Why does only Vegas disappear? Why not any of the 30 or 40 other processes that XP and other apps are running? Keeping your airflow free of obstacles is important, but this sure sounds like a memory leak in one the new plugins that was used only in this project and no others prior to this.

By the way, most systems these days have motherboards and CPU modules with temperature sensors. I have a thermal monitoring process from Intel that runs in the background to alert me if temps exceed the safe threshold. If I do nothing after the alarm sounds, the system initiates a shutdown. I highly recommend such monitoring and the CPU usage is incredibly low.
fldave wrote on 5/11/2006, 6:49 PM
Tech Diver,
Agree with your approach to remove all the effects to see if that corrects the problem, if the system is clean from dust. I would then add each effect back one by one to identify the offending effect.

Also, keep an eye on the render time counter to see if it is at the same point each time it crashes. That would definitely point to a timeline/effect problem.
johnmeyer wrote on 5/11/2006, 10:08 PM
One more vote for fX or plugins. This is the third thread in the past few days with similar problems. I know of one third-party plugin for sure that will cause this exact problem. Remove the plugin, and the problem is gone. You can either uninstall your third-party plugins, or can simply temporarily remove the DLLs from the several plugin directories. I gave more thorough directions yesterday in this thread: Vegas Error
Grazie wrote on 5/11/2006, 10:47 PM

I also think there IS a s/w issue going on rather than a purely heat/mechanical issue. However, heat sensors CAN fail and having clean-dust-free portals did allow me to render MPGs. Period! It may be that the two "causes" are conspiring together. If you observe a lot of fur/dust in and around the cooling systems you can at least rectify this OR if you don;t have any cooling issue, ignore it and remove it from the investigation check list.

And Wolfie? Ask any self-respecting Crab and it WILL tell you it is Lobsters that walk sideways. Looking at a PC problem often requires a need to view/approach it from another angle - sideways or otherwise - too.

Grazie

JazzyG wrote on 5/12/2006, 3:57 AM
I removed all of the new effects and I think I have narrowed down the problem. When vegas is rendering and reaches the vid clips the rendering slows down almost to a standstill. When it rendering the effects, no problem.

I removed every thing from my project, leaving behind only the vid clips and it moves slow as molasses on on a cold day, then disappears, and not it says low memory, I am about ready to give up on this project.

JazzyG.