Vegas Edit 21 Upgrade

mhammann57 wrote on 6/6/2024, 3:07 PM

I have been tempted to purchase an upgrade from Vegas 18 to Vegas Edit 21 but would like to know what to expect. Hoping it will do a better job when editing my GoPro 11 4K video (HEVC H.265). Since my last post I have added an NVidia RTX 3060 graphics card. The addition of the card did not seem to make much difference while editing. Unchecking "Use Legacy HEVC" helped a great deal before I got the card but now I still get some stuttering when previewing. Some have advised to stop trying to use HEVC and to convert my videos before editing using Handbrake or Shutter Encoder. Thought Vegas 21 might eliminate that need. Here is my current system specs along with a screenshot of the File I/O in prefs.

i9-13900K
32GB RAM
Windows 11 Pro
2GB M.2 for C drive
NVidia RTX 3060 (new)
Currently using Vegas Pro 18.0 Build 527

Many thanks for any advice/help!

Mark

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ChrisD wrote on 6/6/2024, 4:27 PM

@mhammann57

i7-13700K / RTX 3060ti (FE) here.

For what its worth, I shoot with a GoPro 10, Fuji XT-4 (ALL-I, 400mbps), and a GoPro 5, all in 4K. For the GoPro 5, it's in to GyroFlow for stabilization and lens correction, and then out to H.265/HEVC.

Out of camera I can preview Best (Full) at captured speed, usually 29.970. No stuttering or degraded FPS.

Maybe it's just me, but there is one major issue with the latest build of Vegas 21 and the Color Grading Panel. It completely kills performance. I'm hoping for a quick fix, but in the meatime I can fake it with various FX, or Best (Auto), or out to Cineform for camera matching and final grading.

Is the RTX 3060 in your system now?

Mine. v21 b315

mhammann57 wrote on 6/6/2024, 5:30 PM

Yes, the RTX 3060 (not Ti) is in my system now. Not sure why, but the following has me wanting to blame the new PC.

On my old Windows 10 i7-3770K (using iGPU) I can play a 5.3K/29.97 FPS HEVC file from my GoPro using VLC or the Movies & TV ap. It stutters a bit. Looks a little better in VLC. On my new i9-13900K with or without the RTX3060, I get severe pixelation, image corruption, & freezing video using VLC. Leads me to believe its not Vegas but instead something about my new system. I can view the video on the GoPro camera and it plays just fine so the file is not corrupt. I've installed the HVEC extensions that are on the Microsoft site. No help. Before I invest $169+ in Vegas Edit 21, I want to make sure my system is not the problem. Thanks!

ChrisD wrote on 6/6/2024, 5:45 PM

Heh. I haven't stepped up to 5.3K yet -- my 3 camera and audio workflow has already suffered enough. 😬

Your might be able to grab a Vegas 21 eval? I do not recall exactly, but I think it will install parallel to your v18.

mhammann57 wrote on 6/6/2024, 6:07 PM

Worth a try! Thanks Chris. I'll let you know how it goes. Mark

RogerS wrote on 6/6/2024, 8:08 PM

Did you do the trial of 21? Please do so and it doesn't conflict with 18. When you do that preferences/ file io should use your NVIDIA GPU (NVDEC) to read this footage. Keep legacy AVC/experimental HEVC unchecked while you test its performance.

For a player I use MPC Black Edition with MadVR and Lav filters as it handles just about everything. https://chamconsoft.com/cmc/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=197

Gid wrote on 6/7/2024, 6:52 AM

@mhammann57 I use a GoPro11, Vegas Pro Edit 21 is a lot better than previous versions esp VP18, I've tried pretty much every GoPro format inc 5.3 & playback is pretty much flawless (No proxies). In previous versions I had stuttering, layback lag.. you name it, I can't remember exactly but performance was very poor. Like I say VP21 plays them as you would expect 👍 I'm still on Windows 10, I have an AMD CPU with no integrated graphics so as suggested test with the VP21 Trial first but you should see a big difference 👍