So how does one get native SR from the tape into the computer?

From my reading of the captioning support it only works as metadata in an MXF wrapper. How to get from there into an industry standard format such as DigiBeta?
This isn't a trivial question, I've yet to hear of any local broadcasters that can ingest Sony's MXF.

Bob.

So how does one get native SR from the tape into the computer?

Via SDI into an AJA or BMD card?

How to get from there into an industry standard format such as DigiBeta?

DigiBeta is SD, which uses a different captioning format.

Sony: If you've rendered some other type of file [not MXF], the closed captioning is not imbedded into the file, but the application still creates the SCC file for you and gives it the same name as that you specified for the rendered file.

"Via SDI into an AJA or BMD card?"

Well SDI typically doesn't carry a native data stream. What you get captured is not a bit copy of what's on the tape. If it were and in the past Sony have not made the SR codec available then it would not have been possible to edit the captured data, hence my question.

Bob.

HD-SDI carries captioning

What worries me a little bit about Vegas' captioning support for other than MXF output is what's stated on the web page above:

Popular caption file formats such as .SCC and .CAP files only contain CEA-608 caption data, therefore they do not satisfy FCC requirements for DTV broadcasts.

So it may be that for the moment Vegas needs to output MXF for FCC-regulated broadcast at least. Or not, would have to read the manual.

Maybe some of us could gather at the SCS section of the Sony Booth at NAB tomorrow afternoon and see if Gary or someone from SCS can explain the practical application of their method. Putting the captions onto the time line is easy. Rendering the tiime line to .mxf with the included markers is easy. The way I understand it though, I can just deliver the .mxf file to my broadcaster and be OK. Also I can not broadcast through my own cable network because we are SD and I cant just playback an .mxf file.

I bet there was a work flow for adding the captions and then getting them to air when they added the functionality. Maybe they can help us less knowledgeable about captions to understand the work flow.

I believe with Final Cut Studio you encode it into an MPEG2 file which is a different work flow, but I could be wrong entirely. I am not that good with FCS.

What do you think Coursedesign. want to ask for some info as a group? It will save them explaining it a bunch of times.

Keith Kolbo
From NAB

I seriously doubt that Sony Broadcast division, Sony TV, Sony etc.... knowns less that Apple's FCP crew.... Spin....... and more spin........ ;-)

What do you think Coursedesign. want to ask for some info as a group? It will save them explaining it a bunch of times.

I'd love to go with you, but I can barely move.

I was supposed to be at the Media Motion Ball this evening but I reinjured my separated shoulder (operated on three times already, with one more likely), and I guess I must be even a bit cranky from the pain (although I don't think anyone noticed :O).

Sorry to hear that. Here in Vegas we could probably get you a house call nurse to make you feel better. Please take care of the shoulder. Sorry we will miss you.

KK