Vegas Pro 21 (208) System Memory usage Low

QuanAndMichelle wrote on 2/12/2024, 9:20 AM

Hello Vegas 21 Users And Developers

for the last few days i have been running to an issue where Vegas Pro 21 likes to run out of System Memory Usage and make it low

i made a 3 hour test project at 4k 60 fps and rendered it to 1080 30p with NVidia NV Codes

in the rendering windows when the render is at 75%-85% it stops and error message pops up

here are my vegas project and render settings




 



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j-v wrote on 2/12/2024, 9:40 AM

Can you also give a screenshot of your Options/Preferences/Video?

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QuanAndMichelle wrote on 2/12/2024, 9:49 AM

sure one moment



 

j-v wrote on 2/12/2024, 9:56 AM

Thanks
In your signature I read that you have 16 GB of memory, In the screenshot I see 64 GB
What is it?

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Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

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QuanAndMichelle wrote on 2/12/2024, 10:02 AM

Thanks
In your signature I read that you have 16 GB of memory, In the screenshot I see 64 GB
What is it?

i have upgraded to 64 GB thank you for pointing that out i need to update my signatures

RogerS wrote on 2/12/2024, 5:51 PM

I wonder if it's actually referring to GPU memory.

Do you have GPU-intensive Fx, adjustment events, etc. on this project?

When the error message appears can you paste in what it says under show problem details?

Former user wrote on 2/12/2024, 6:18 PM

Your deinerlace method should be set to None if you're not using interlaced footage. There is a problem with ALL-I AVC footage where it will use up all your shared GPU memory, which would be 32GB of you system memory in your case, however you should notice that by seeing black frames. You may be using such footage from a video library of stock footage or various videos used for layering that may come as an fx package, or camera footage may be ALL-I .

When you say a 3 hour test project if it's a simple edit Vegas should do fine, but with complex edits, I've read recommendations that you should encode 10minutes at a time and then join them all together, seems crazy I KNOW, but this is the advice I read here.

QuanAndMichelle wrote on 2/12/2024, 6:38 PM

I wonder if it's actually referring to GPU memory.

Do you have GPU-intensive Fx, adjustment events, etc. on this project?

When the error message appears can you paste in what it says under show problem details?

i'm not sure if it's the GPU memory but if it is would that cause a BOSD effect

"can you paste in what it says under show problem details?"

i can try and do it but i would has to set up the editing project as Smart Simpleing GPU Only while playing a game in the background during rendering windows and see what happens hold on

RogerS wrote on 2/12/2024, 6:51 PM

GPU memory can trigger missing frames, memory warnings or a red screen in VEGAS.

I haven't seen VEGAS itself trigger BSODs, only if there's also a GPU driver issue.

QuanAndMichelle wrote on 2/12/2024, 7:41 PM

alright will i'm currently Re Rendering the 3 hour Project right now and i'm waiting for an error to show up so i can screen grab it



 

look like it's crashed here
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Error Crash <

at this point i do not see a Crash Stop reporting and no BOSD has happened

Former user wrote on 2/12/2024, 7:43 PM
 


i can try and do it but i would has to set up the editing project as Smart Simpleing GPU Only while playing a game in the background during rendering windows and see what happens hold on

 

I think I understand now. you're using that feature for creating motion blur when recording high frame rate footage, such as 120fps or 240fps, then incorporating it into a 30fps or 60fps for YouTube with the motion blur giving an impression it's still playing at a high frame rate due to how smooth movement is. I had forgot about that use, and that should not be the problem.

Like ROgerS said, Vegas should not cause a BSOD unless indirectly such as using up all system ram or GPU memory. Possibly computer stability problems, maybe GPU drivers, but often drivers crash which results in monitors turning off for a few seconds then turning on again.

QuanAndMichelle wrote on 2/12/2024, 7:51 PM
 


i can try and do it but i would has to set up the editing project as Smart Simpleing GPU Only while playing a game in the background during rendering windows and see what happens hold on

 

I think I understand now. you're using that feature for creating motion blur when recording high frame rate footage, such as 120fps or 240fps, then incorporating it into a 30fps or 60fps for YouTube with the motion blur giving an impression it's still playing at a high frame rate due to how smooth movement is. I had forgot about that use, and that should not be the problem.

Like ROgerS said, Vegas should not cause a BSOD unless indirectly such as using up all system ram or GPU memory. Possibly computer stability problems, maybe GPU drivers, but often drivers crash which results in monitors turning off for a few seconds then turning on again.

ok so how can i fix this problem then cause i never seen anything like this happening before

Former user wrote on 2/12/2024, 8:09 PM

You could try uninstalling the video drivers with Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) while in safe mode, then reinstall latest Nvidia studio drivers. You possibly want to be on latest game drivers, but this is just to test it's a gpu driver problem. That needs to be ruled out first, Vegas crashing and giving low memory errors are often reported, BSOD's due to Vegas happens much less.

QuanAndMichelle wrote on 2/12/2024, 8:10 PM

You could try uninstalling the video drivers with Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) while in safe mode, then reinstall latest Nvidia studio drivers. You possibly want to be on latest game drivers, but this is just to test it's a gpu driver problem. That needs to be ruled out first, Vegas crashing and giving low memory errors are often reported, BSOD's due to Vegas happens much less.

alright i'll do that rite now

 

QuanAndMichelle wrote on 2/12/2024, 8:26 PM

running this test again with Smart Simpleing Enabled



so after waiting around for about 40 mins this happened again

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Reyfox wrote on 2/13/2024, 9:16 AM

What do you see in TaskManager?

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QuanAndMichelle wrote on 2/13/2024, 9:52 AM

What do you see in TaskManager?

the normal Vegas pro 21 Tabs

Reyfox wrote on 2/13/2024, 9:56 AM

A screenshot of how much memory is being accessed by Vegas would be nice when that error window pops up.

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Gigabyte X570 Elite Motherboard

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QuanAndMichelle wrote on 2/13/2024, 11:11 AM

please wait a moment

ok here you go

 

Reyfox wrote on 2/13/2024, 12:48 PM

How much space on the drive you are saving it to? Also, can you show in Task Manager by clicking on Performance>GPU, what does that look like when the error window appears?

I've had almost all of my video RAM used up several times, but never have seen an error while rendering. Even during playback, a lot gets used on this project.

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Vegas Pro 22 (VP18-21 also installed)

Win 11 Pro always updated

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32GB DDR4 3200

Sapphire RX6700XT 12GB Driver: 25.3.1

Gigabyte X570 Elite Motherboard

Panasonic G9, G7, FZ300

QuanAndMichelle wrote on 2/13/2024, 1:01 PM

i only have 8 GB of VRAM so haif is it was taking up by vegas

Reyfox wrote on 2/13/2024, 1:12 PM

Your card should still be good. Where are you saving the file? How much hard drive space do you have on it?

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Vegas Pro 22 (VP18-21 also installed)

Win 11 Pro always updated

AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 cores / 32 threads

32GB DDR4 3200

Sapphire RX6700XT 12GB Driver: 25.3.1

Gigabyte X570 Elite Motherboard

Panasonic G9, G7, FZ300

QuanAndMichelle wrote on 2/13/2024, 1:46 PM

Your card should still be good. Where are you saving the file? How much hard drive space do you have on it?

i have my Files Saved to my 10 EHD

Reyfox wrote on 2/13/2024, 1:54 PM

Saving to an external hard drive. How much space and what is it connected to on your laptop? USB3.x?

Newbie😁

Vegas Pro 22 (VP18-21 also installed)

Win 11 Pro always updated

AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 cores / 32 threads

32GB DDR4 3200

Sapphire RX6700XT 12GB Driver: 25.3.1

Gigabyte X570 Elite Motherboard

Panasonic G9, G7, FZ300

QuanAndMichelle wrote on 2/13/2024, 2:02 PM

Saving to an external hard drive. How much space and what is it connected to on your laptop? USB3.x?

it's USB 3 and it's connection to desktop pc the Drive is 10 TB