Vegas Pro 21 315 - Got message to upgrade Mocha, did so, now unstable

Douglas-McCarron wrote on 8/18/2024, 2:49 PM

I have contacted both Vegas and Boris tech support on this. See if any of you have ideas on how to proceed. As title said downloaded an offered upgrade, I think from Boris. Had some issues but was successful. Now Vegas Pro is highly unstable. When I try to add an effect I see a white box form but it is not populated with effects to choose from. Just an empty box. When I try to Save or Save As nothing happens. I can Incremental Save. When I try to Render I select the entire timeline but when I try to give a name for the rendered file I can only use the name of the project using the Incremental name. When I click render I get a unfilled render box (some titles but no information, no demonstration of Vegas doing work). And it keeps getting worse. Plus after any of these Vegas will no longer let me click on anything or type. I wait a couple minutes to see if this changes but it doesn't. This have been going on for about a week, about the time I got the Boris Continuum / Mocha upgrade though that may not be the issue. It does seem though that all of these involve file i/o, at least to my uneducated mind.

Does anyone know if this upgrade was actually something Vegas supported or was it a Boris offer? And might that impact effects?

I have tried changing some options but when I reload a version of the project everything is back to as it was before. Mostly I have concentrated on the Video card entries for Video and I/O thinking that might be a cause, but nothing changes.

I am starting to think I need to uninstall Vegas 21 and then reinstall from my original download, get that set up, then walk through the upgrades to 315. Though first I want to hear from Tech support, and anyone here. I am suspecting that offer (that I am fairly sure came from Boris as I had to go to the continuum hub and register with Boris) didn't actually apply to my Vegas Pro 21 315 and thus upset things. But I don't know, not strong on software, just trying to get my movie projects done.

Worse was I was about 3 minutes of run time in a 1hr 23min project being completed when all this started, and there is a time crunch.

Grrrrrr.

Thank you
Douglas Scott McCarron

System Information report written at: 08/18/24 01:53:28
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Windows 11, Realtek audio,

 

Comments

RogerS wrote on 8/18/2024, 9:56 PM

This is Mocha VEGAS or one you bought from Boris?

Gid wrote on 8/19/2024, 1:05 AM

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti

2GB - Release Date Feb 18th, 2014

@Douglas-McCarron Hi, did you try turning off that GPU in VP Preferences,

There's also an option in Mocha Pro.

Vegas Pro 18 - 22
Vegas Pro/Post 19
Boris Continuum & Sapphire, 
Silhouette Standalone + Plugin, 
Mocha Pro Standalone + Plugin, 
Boris Optics,
NewBlue TotalFX
Desktop PC Microsoft Windows 10 Pro - 64-Bit
ASUS PRO WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI AMD Motherboard
AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3975WX 3.5GHz 32 Core
Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 360mm All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler
RAM 256GB ( 8x Micron 32GB (1x 32GB) 2666MHz DDR4 RAM )
2x Western Digital Black SN850 2TB M.2-2280 SSD, 7000MB/s Read, 5100MB/s Write
(programs on one, project files on the other)
Graphics MSI GeForce RTX 3090 SUPRIM X 24GB OC GPU
ASUS ROG Thor 1200W Semi-Modular 80+ Platinum PSU 
Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark TG Case with 3 Fans
Dell SE3223Q 31.5 Inch 4K UHD (3840x2160) Monitor, 60Hz, & an Acer 24" monitor.

At the moment my filming is done with a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra 5G & a GoPro Hero11 Black

I've been a Joiner/Carpenter for 40yrs, apprentice trained time served, I don't have an apprentice of my own so to share my knowledge I put videos on YouTube.

YouTube videos - https://www.youtube.com/c/Gidjoiner

 

Douglas-McCarron wrote on 8/19/2024, 1:26 AM

The original was the Mocha that came with Vegas. I believe the upgrade offer I found with in my Continuum Hub so i would say it is from Boris.

Douglas-McCarron wrote on 8/19/2024, 1:27 AM

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti

2GB - Release Date Feb 18th, 2014

@Douglas-McCarron Hi, did you try turning off that GPU in VP Preferences,

There's also an option in Mocha Pro.

I don't know where this menu is. I never opened Mocha (ironic given this situation). Where would I find it?

Gid wrote on 8/19/2024, 1:39 AM

@Douglas-McCarron It's in Preferences in Mocha, can say whether you're using Mocha Pro or Vegas Mocha?

Vegas Pro 18 - 22
Vegas Pro/Post 19
Boris Continuum & Sapphire, 
Silhouette Standalone + Plugin, 
Mocha Pro Standalone + Plugin, 
Boris Optics,
NewBlue TotalFX
Desktop PC Microsoft Windows 10 Pro - 64-Bit
ASUS PRO WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI AMD Motherboard
AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3975WX 3.5GHz 32 Core
Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 360mm All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler
RAM 256GB ( 8x Micron 32GB (1x 32GB) 2666MHz DDR4 RAM )
2x Western Digital Black SN850 2TB M.2-2280 SSD, 7000MB/s Read, 5100MB/s Write
(programs on one, project files on the other)
Graphics MSI GeForce RTX 3090 SUPRIM X 24GB OC GPU
ASUS ROG Thor 1200W Semi-Modular 80+ Platinum PSU 
Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark TG Case with 3 Fans
Dell SE3223Q 31.5 Inch 4K UHD (3840x2160) Monitor, 60Hz, & an Acer 24" monitor.

At the moment my filming is done with a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra 5G & a GoPro Hero11 Black

I've been a Joiner/Carpenter for 40yrs, apprentice trained time served, I don't have an apprentice of my own so to share my knowledge I put videos on YouTube.

YouTube videos - https://www.youtube.com/c/Gidjoiner

 

Douglas-McCarron wrote on 8/19/2024, 3:29 AM

I am using the one that came with Vegas. Though now with this upgrade I was offered I am not sure. Vegas is not very stable anymore. But if there is a difference as your question suggests that may explain my issue. I just don't know. I have not seen in the Mocha I have anything that looks like that menu.

Gid wrote on 8/19/2024, 3:57 AM

@Douglas-McCarron Ok, sorry I don't have Mocha Vegas to compare but if you downloaded a version from Boris that could explain your problem. I would expect a Preferences option in the Mocha Vegas version tho?.

Have a look top left as to which version you're opening.

I copied this from the Boris Mocha Vegas video. top left Mocha Vegas.

This is what my Mocha Pro plugin shows

The Mocha Pro standalone version obviously doesn't say 'plugin'.

On the Boris website there is no Mocha Vegas download so whatever upgrade you downloaded I doubt it was the correct one,

Find the download that came with your Vegas Pro 21 315 & reinstall, you might or prob should uninstall the one you 'upgraded' to.

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PS.

But if there is a difference

Yes there is a big difference.

Last changed by Gid on 8/19/2024, 4:14 AM, changed a total of 2 times.

Vegas Pro 18 - 22
Vegas Pro/Post 19
Boris Continuum & Sapphire, 
Silhouette Standalone + Plugin, 
Mocha Pro Standalone + Plugin, 
Boris Optics,
NewBlue TotalFX
Desktop PC Microsoft Windows 10 Pro - 64-Bit
ASUS PRO WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI AMD Motherboard
AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3975WX 3.5GHz 32 Core
Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 360mm All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler
RAM 256GB ( 8x Micron 32GB (1x 32GB) 2666MHz DDR4 RAM )
2x Western Digital Black SN850 2TB M.2-2280 SSD, 7000MB/s Read, 5100MB/s Write
(programs on one, project files on the other)
Graphics MSI GeForce RTX 3090 SUPRIM X 24GB OC GPU
ASUS ROG Thor 1200W Semi-Modular 80+ Platinum PSU 
Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark TG Case with 3 Fans
Dell SE3223Q 31.5 Inch 4K UHD (3840x2160) Monitor, 60Hz, & an Acer 24" monitor.

At the moment my filming is done with a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra 5G & a GoPro Hero11 Black

I've been a Joiner/Carpenter for 40yrs, apprentice trained time served, I don't have an apprentice of my own so to share my knowledge I put videos on YouTube.

YouTube videos - https://www.youtube.com/c/Gidjoiner

 

Gid wrote on 8/19/2024, 4:18 AM

I am starting to think I need to uninstall Vegas 21 and then reinstall from my original download, get that set up, then walk through the upgrades to 315.

@Douglas-McCarron You can download your version from this post & there's an option to download (315) so you might not have to go through the upgrades https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-where-can-i-download-vegas-pro-and-other-vegas-software--104782/

Vegas Pro 18 - 22
Vegas Pro/Post 19
Boris Continuum & Sapphire, 
Silhouette Standalone + Plugin, 
Mocha Pro Standalone + Plugin, 
Boris Optics,
NewBlue TotalFX
Desktop PC Microsoft Windows 10 Pro - 64-Bit
ASUS PRO WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI AMD Motherboard
AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3975WX 3.5GHz 32 Core
Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 360mm All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler
RAM 256GB ( 8x Micron 32GB (1x 32GB) 2666MHz DDR4 RAM )
2x Western Digital Black SN850 2TB M.2-2280 SSD, 7000MB/s Read, 5100MB/s Write
(programs on one, project files on the other)
Graphics MSI GeForce RTX 3090 SUPRIM X 24GB OC GPU
ASUS ROG Thor 1200W Semi-Modular 80+ Platinum PSU 
Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark TG Case with 3 Fans
Dell SE3223Q 31.5 Inch 4K UHD (3840x2160) Monitor, 60Hz, & an Acer 24" monitor.

At the moment my filming is done with a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra 5G & a GoPro Hero11 Black

I've been a Joiner/Carpenter for 40yrs, apprentice trained time served, I don't have an apprentice of my own so to share my knowledge I put videos on YouTube.

YouTube videos - https://www.youtube.com/c/Gidjoiner

 

Douglas-McCarron wrote on 8/19/2024, 11:18 AM

Ok thank you