Vegas Pro11 Crashes but happy

Yachtie Dave wrote on 7/5/2012, 8:26 PM

Mostly in life people report the things that are wrong & that is okay, particularly if its hard earned cash involved. A very low percentage of us give credit or mention when things work well.

I am an amateur in video filming & editing, having started about 2 years ago.(I am in my late 60's).

I tried several non professional programs ( Premier Elements purchased, Coral. Pinnacle,Vegas Movie StudioHD 10 purchased) plus others on trial & could not get the results I wanted. Vegas MovieStudio 10 was 32bit & that caused crash problems, Elements was mediocre & crashed a lot when rendering but had some qualities.

I now have Vegas Pro11 64bit build 683 & have found learning it is not that hard but I am far off being an expert. At this point I am very pleased with the performance.

Yes it has crashed a few times however some of them were my fault ( pressing save & doing something else before process was finished)

The other crashes (3or 4) occurred when using New Blue Effects Titler. Seems to be a common thread !
Maybe of interest for some, before purchasing Vegas Pro11 I downloaded a trial of New BlueTitler & played with it on its own. It crashed at least 5 times so I gave up.

Thanks guys,reading comments & advice on this forum from professionals is very informative.

Comments

videoITguy wrote on 7/5/2012, 8:35 PM

To Yachtie Dave:
Believe it or not your experience with VegasPro11 can be a valuable lesson for others. Generally in order to make a strong contribution to the rest of us:

1) It would help to list the piecesof your system,
Motherboard/processor or type of computer

2) Your workflow - e.g., state" you capture AVCHD with camera xyz
and use multiple effects and transistions (?) on the timeline....?"

3) You disabled or uninstalled the NB Titler software?

4)Any special third party hardware or plug-ins added to your VegasPro installation?

Rich Parry wrote on 7/6/2012, 11:02 PM

Dave,

I have a similar background as you, old (65), retired, and video is a hobby (passion). If Vegas crashes, it is an annoyance, but life goes on.

On the other hand, some folks feed their family using Vegas, put their kids through college, and provide a home with Vegas. For those folks, a crash is totally unacceptable.

I've been using Vegas Pro 5,6,7,8,9,10,11 and I have to agree with others, 11 is unstable and in my opionion usable for professionals. I don't blame anyone for complaining.

I also believe that version 11 was all about GPU support and I have read very few GPU success stories.

My 2 cents,
Rich

Rich Parry wrote on 7/6/2012, 11:11 PM

Just noticed my typo (my bad), here is the corrected sentence.

" ... in my opionion unusable for professionals"

That is probably a little too strong a statement, but you get the idea, right?

Rich

Grazie wrote on 7/7/2012, 1:19 AM

Back up the Bus!

It is unacceptable that software gets in the way of anybody, at whatever level, amateur, professional, hobbyists or whoever. I don't make these exceptions. No.

If somebody wishes to express themselves, here, through the medium of Video, then the tools that support that wish should be up to the job to do just that. And y'know what, I bet SCS shares that opinion too: Sony Creative Software. It's kinda front and centre in their company name?

And yes, I too stand by Vegas and have done so for 10 years. From VV3 up to the present release of VP11B683.

So no. No apologies please. If I've misunderstood your comments/sentiments, then I'll post a retraction.

Presently I'm having a 'mare of a time with re-engaging Media Manager. But, I will work with chums here, on SKYPE (thanks to jr and Tom!), post emails to SCS and hopefully work with their engineers to dig deeper to find a cure. I don't want to know the WHY, I want to get to HOW.

Cheers

Grazie

TheRhino wrote on 7/7/2012, 10:25 AM

As a professional who feeds my family & pays my mortgage using VVPro, VVPro is still just a tool in the toolbox. I have "backup" tools like FCP & PPro in the toolbox also and know how to use them. However, I choose to use VVPro because I get my work out the door about 30% faster which means I can work 5 days per week vs. 6.... In a pinch I can also take projects home & finish them over the weekend much easier with Vegas than with the other NLEs...

If the life cycle of VVPro ends, I can still use my existing versions until they eventually become obsolete. Right now Vegas 9e &10e can handle 95% of the work I receive and I do not see this changing anytime soon. The fact that SCS is following the path of GPU rendering as the future to faster/affordable rendering is a good thing even if there were some kinks with V11.

I think the future is for NLEs to take advantage of multiple GPUs. With PCIe 3.0, Thunderbolt & larger capacity SSDs the bottleneck will still be rendering speed. This will be especially important as we go beyond 1920x1080 resolution & render times once-again increase for every project... Dropping-in a 2nd $500 GPU to significantly increase speeds would be ideal.

Yachtie Dave wrote on 7/10/2012, 10:32 PM

VideoITGuy
Sorry about the delay in replying, had many things away from the computer to do. In answer to your questions

1) Windows 7 Prof 64-bit
RAM:8gb
Processor:Intel i7 2600 @3.4ghz overclocked to 4.2ghz
Video Card:AMD 6900series 2gb DDR5.5
Sound Card:ATI High Definition
DVD Burner:2 x Samsung SH-S223C DVD/CD Rom drives
Hard drives 2x 1TB SATA600 3.5 7200rpm
1 External My Passport 750 gb

2) Camera:Canon HFS21
Capture in AVCHD

3) I am still persisting with NB Titler but am not that impressed with what it can do having watched some video regarding its capabilities.

4) I don't have any 3rd party hardware or plugins

Can you tell me what are the pro's of using the 'Media Bins'? It is something I have not made use of.
Dave