Vegas to Digibeta

BigDuke6 wrote on 11/10/2004, 11:52 AM
We are using Vegas 5 to prepare some odd sized video (720x404)

The video needs to be written to a Digibeta deck, so I am trying to figure out the best way to do that.

I know that the 1394 interface can control a DV deck, but the Digibeta deck requires RS422 (9 pin) for control, and I don't know if there is a way to do it from Vegas.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Comments

BJ_M wrote on 11/10/2004, 12:27 PM
well you could use a promax or a Convergent Designs box and do it ..

or load you finished project into another app that has desk control and SDI and send it over ...

farss wrote on 11/10/2004, 12:40 PM
The deck will go into record without 422 control, just push the red button!
Harder part is getting from 1394 to SDI or component. I'm led to believe though that you can use one of the Declink SDI cards, Vegas will not talk to that but you can use a Declink app to drive the deck so that's not an issue.
If you want to take full advantage of recording to DB I think you should be using the 4:2:2 Sony codec in Vegas. Will not make a difference for anything you've shot on DV25 but if you've applied things like CC you should get a better result going down this path.

Actually this just raised a thought, I keep hearing everyone talking about how much DV25 goes to air even though it isn't technically broadcast quality. Now I know for a fact that that DV25 is upsampled and then worked on, this could explain why all the stuff I've seen from PD150s etc looks so much better on air than anything I've seen pulled straight from the camera.
Bob.
John_Cline wrote on 11/10/2004, 12:46 PM
"even though it isn't technically broadcast quality."

And exactly what about it isn't "technically broadcast quality?"

John
rdolishny wrote on 11/10/2004, 8:02 PM
It's technically possible from Vegas with the right gear but for me (doing 30 second spots or 4 minute music videos) I burn an uncompressed AVI using the Digisuite Lossless codec and bring the CD's or DVDRAM disks to an edit suite running Digisuite (Discreet Edit) and print to tape with their gear.

It's a great solution that costs me just a few minutes and dollars in a real edit suite. I do all the creative work in my home suite with Vegas and save the purchase of an SDI equipped Digibeta recorder to someone else! :)

- R
winrockpost wrote on 11/10/2004, 8:21 PM
.........I burn an uncompressed AVI using the Digisuite Lossless codec

Why is that better that just rendering uncompressed ?
rdolishny wrote on 11/10/2004, 9:10 PM
>> .........I burn an uncompressed AVI using the Digisuite Lossless codec
>> Why is that better that just rendering uncompressed ?

Sorry, that was demonstrating my particular workflow. If you're taking your work to a Final Cut SDI suite, you would render as Quicktime. There is no advantage to rendering to the Matrox codec if you're not going to a Matrox suite. Thanks for pointing this out.

While most edit suites can read most codecs, if you bring a DS AVI to a DS edit suite it just loads right up - no importing necessary (which saves me money).

As uncompressed codecs go, though, the Digisuite was innovative in that it used a form of Zip archiving to make "uncompressed" video quite small. Imagine zipping or unzipping an image 30 times a second - that is something kinda cool the Digisuite does rather handily.

- R
winrockpost wrote on 11/11/2004, 8:27 AM
Thanks, good info.
(didnt mean to hijack this thread , but curious)
klaatu wrote on 11/11/2004, 9:18 AM
I like rdolishny's idea, quick, cheap, and very little loss.

If your going to do transfers often, invest in a BLACKMAGIC "Decklink SP" PCI card........true 10-bit uncompressed component captures and RS-422 deck control. Around 599.00.


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