Verdict on V7?

wolfbass wrote on 9/30/2006, 6:43 PM

mmm haven't got mine working yet. I get an error when I start:

Microsoft VC80OPENMP and Vcomp.dll wont load.

Then when I do get it working, I get to frame 8 and the thing slows to a crawl.

Ah well, I'm sure I'll sort it soon.

Andy

riredale wrote on 9/30/2006, 6:47 PM

From my limited perspective, V7a is wonderful, with near-DV performance with m2t clips, and no practical limit on the number of m2t clips on the timeline. I uninstalled MediaManager so I don't have any experience with it, and I also have never used the DVD authoring program. V4 was bulletproof with my DV editing projects, and I expect V7 will be the same with HDV.

Paul_Holmes wrote on 9/30/2006, 6:53 PM

I never use wmvs on the timeline, but you got me curious. I placed a five minute wmv 9 file on the time line and played it at both Preview | Half and Preview | Full and got 23.976 frames per second playback (a 24p rendered file). I have a Toshiba DuoCore Centrino laptop.

For me it's all worth it for two reasons at least, the variable display size and it's integration with Cinescore. As I've said before I'll probably never again open Cinescore by itself. I just create a region, right click and "Create New Score." (I forget if that's the exact menu choice). Also the yellow vertical flash when you bring a clip to the cursor or up next to another clip is great. Kind of a visual, "Hey, you've bumped into something here. "

I think I've also heard some positive comments about HD, but I don't deal with that myself.

Harold Brown wrote on 9/30/2006, 7:50 PM

I just started using it today but it seems stable so far. Install of V7, DVDA4 and Cinescore went perfect. Did some work on a 6.5 minute clip with lots of effects, composites, multi track video and audio and it worked perfect. I haven't really spent any time on specific new features. I'll do that during the next week. I have to spend some time to learn Cinescore. I mentioned in another post the fantastic improvement on m2t fileplayback.

Harold

Michael L wrote on 9/30/2006, 8:33 PM

Discovered an amazing increase in preview speed today. Before with 4 cameras on the time line I was lucky to get draft to work at partial speed today it was moving right along at best full.

NOt a big thing but worth the upgrade price to me along with the other little things I have discovered - cinescore plugin, better external monitor response.

FrigidNDEditing wrote on 9/30/2006, 8:51 PM

the amount of time i've saved with improvements in 7a on my short deadlines has made it worth EVERY penny, not to mention DVDA4

Dave

vicmilt wrote on 9/30/2006, 9:03 PM

Reminiscing on my old AVID system with it's yearly $1,500 to $3,000 upgrades, well a buck and a half don't seem so bad.

It is definitely faster, and I love the new "snap to" auto function. Can't wait to load up some HDV stuff and see how she runs.

Haven't done a LOT yet, but it hasn't crashed for me. Just finished a job started in Vegas 6 - imported w/o fanfare and worked just fine.

C'mon - a buck and a half.... that's cheap for any upgrade.

v

Xander wrote on 9/30/2006, 9:10 PM

Have to say, it is a dream to work with. Working on a project with a whole bunch of .m2t files. No problems and no need for an intermediate codec. The new snapping indicators are great. Well worth it.

jrazz wrote on 9/30/2006, 9:16 PM

How has the experience been with completing projects started in 6? What about using old vegs from 4,5, and 6 in 7? Any problems there?

j razz

FrigidNDEditing wrote on 9/30/2006, 9:24 PM

I have a monthly series that I have just been dropping a nested veg for the intro that was done in 6 and I've had no problems with using it in 7.

Don't think I have any V5 veggies anymore.

Dave

Yoyodyne wrote on 9/30/2006, 11:17 PM

I'm having two problems with V7 -

One, playback of 24p Cineform HDV (720p from the JVC GY-HD100) is not as good as V6. In V6 I get full res/full framerate playback to my dell 2405 monitor. With V7 it drops to around 19/20 frames - even if I turn off the preview window, kind of a bummer - have not tested it with m2t but since my workflow is pretty much Cineform based this is a pain.

Two, Vegas 7 seems to have a problem with using color managment when previewing two a secondary monitor. I can't get it to work, this works great in V6 - this is a really big deal for me. In fact this is whats keeping me working with 6 - have opened a support ticket with Sony. Here is a link if anyone wants to check this out:

http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?MessageID=485403&Replies=14

The other stuff in V7 is great - I love the blue, orange and purple lines - what a great idea! Please hurry with 7b!

Wolfgang S. wrote on 10/1/2006, 12:20 AM

Vegas 7b will improve a lot of things further - but if you wish to participate in the promotional pricing, it is worthwile to think about to purchase Vegas 7 before the promotional pricing ends. Vegas 7b will come for sure - before or after the end of the promotional pricing, nobody knows.

Grazie wrote on 10/1/2006, 12:31 AM

Patrick? I don't understand?

"Is it post production ready or should we wait for for 7b?"

If a person buys Vegas7 the subsequent patches are free? Why wait? And in the meantime that person gets all the latest features of V7? As you already HAVE Vegas7, I'm trying to understand the motive for your straw poll. Are you asking this on behalf of others who maybe considering the step-up from V6 or those that are considering buying Vegas for the first time? Or both? Or .. I dunno . ..

OK,

#1 - Colour Snappers for locating edges. Being a bit of a "let's see what happens if?" kinda guy, I do end up with a lot of sketched out ideas - these Colour Snappers keep me aligned!

#2 - The previewing improvements:-

i) The auto Preview Window "Scale Video to Fit Preview Window". I was often quizzing V6 as to the size in the Window - this ways it just happens.

ii) Being able to see in the Preview Window AND on the External JVC Monitor simultaneously. This last one saves me having to twist my head to the right to view.

#3 - Work Layout Menu - Sometimes I don't get to the K/B to change my now work-laouts quick enough (other k/b in the way) and the menu "reminds-me" just what layouts I DO have!

#4 - Timeline at Bottom - Sure, but that was GONNA happen anyway - wasn't it? Lol!!

TLF wrote on 10/1/2006, 2:11 AM

I agree with the enhancements Grazie has listed. Those things, though small, make a great difference to workflow.

In addition, I find the rendering speed incredible. I have been working on hours of old video 8 footage in which the white balance is way off. Virtually every scene needs colour correction and Vegas 7 is able to render the corrected scenes lightning fast on my AMD 64 3500+ system. It's slightly faster than real time.

Very impressed.

I think I've found a couple of bugs with rendering to progressive MPEG2, but can't be certain yet.

Overall, well worth the $150 I paid (roughly £80, which is p*ss cheap for the entire production suite).

Looking forward to whatever the 7b update offers!

Worley

ken c wrote on 10/1/2006, 4:34 AM

like Vic said, worth the modest price of admission, and so far I haven't run into any major bugs or crashes... it hasn't given me any significant features I use, but at least I stay in the loop re latest things to chat cwith you guys about here :p

btw is there a way to "add audio and video track" with one command? so far I've been adding a video and/or audio individually... I'd like to have a "add a/v pair" track w/one keystroke..

ken

JJKizak wrote on 10/1/2006, 5:49 AM

I have had no problem at all importing WMV's. But there is a problem with the latest Cinescore theme "Standby" which causes a crash.

JJK

mr.beebo wrote on 10/1/2006, 6:00 AM

Rendering speed is much better, especially using Magic Bullet. The snap to colors are great as well.

p@mast3rs wrote on 10/1/2006, 6:11 AM

Grazie, I have already bought it and have been using it. My post was to find out if everyone is using it daily as we did with 6d in mission/time critical projects. The reason is I am considering moving all projects to V7 and leaving V6 behind. Plus using it in the classroom.

Grazie wrote on 10/1/2006, 6:33 AM

Ah, OK Patrick - "if everyone is using it daily . ." Well I am.

But your obvious concern, consideration and responsibility you exhibit towards your charges I can truly appreciate and understand. But providing you with the kind of reassurance to say "go ahead", I would think nobody here would be in a position to say yes to.

vicmilt wrote on 10/1/2006, 9:20 AM

Is it just me or is the second monitor preview function really soft?

When I drag the "original" preview to the second screen, it's sharp as a tack, but when I click the "second monitor" button, it's really mushy.

Have I missed something here?

v

JohnnyRoy wrote on 10/1/2006, 9:25 AM

> Is it just me or is the second monitor preview function really soft?

What are your secondary monitor settings? If you have the deinterlace option clicked that may soften it a bit.

BTW, just to answer Patrick’s question, I use Vegas 7 every day just like I did 6.0d. Overall it’s a solid experience.

~jr

Sinfafun wrote on 10/1/2006, 11:22 AM

hi...can you tell me how I can get the promotional pricing?? SONY keeps telling me I need to pay $234.95 to get the upgrade...
Thanx!!

Yoyodyne wrote on 10/1/2006, 11:34 AM

hey Vic, are we talking HD? Standard def can look fairly iffy on a computer monitor -

I'm sure you have set preview to best/full?

By mushy - do you mean washed out/raised gamma? It seems V7 will not send the correct gamma out to the secondary display - I'm hoping this gets fixed soon.

p@mast3rs wrote on 10/1/2006, 11:46 AM

Its the first post under the knowledge base section.