VHS Tape Hiss Problem

Beaney wrote on 8/22/2002, 6:32 PM
I have already posted this in the audio forum but since this is an audio problem in Vegas Video I am having I have re posted it here to see if I get a reply.

I have finished my first project, a 1 hour 6 minute musical, which has 2 audio tracks and 4 video tracks.
The problem I have will take a bit of explaining:-
When I print to tape and monitor the sound on the digicam it sounds OK.
When I copy the DV to VHS with a 6 head Nicam Stereo recorder it sounds good, and when I play it back it sounds good.
However, if I play the same tape in a "normal" 2 or 4 head mono recorder it sounds awful. Whenever the music parts stop and the actors talk there is a lot of tape hiss, sometimes very noticeable, sometimes just loud enough to be annoying because I know it is there.
If I re record from DV to the normal VHS it sounds OK, not as good but OK. But if I play it back through the Nicam one it sounds like they are singing with socks in their mouths.
I have some idea how this has happened but I don't know what to do about it:-
One of the audio tracks is mono and came from the sound desk, the other is stereo from one of the digicams.
Both were copied in to vv3 as stereo recordings. I cannot start again as the original tapes are trashed. They were 83 minute tapes and have stretched.
If I look at the finished stereo audio in the timeline I can see gaps in the left and right tracks where I have cut from one to the other. It appears to be at these points that the hiss is worse.
When both tracks are playing at the same time it is OK.
So I believe the problem is that the left or right channel is generating white noise when it has no audio to process.
I tried re printing as mono after combining the tracks but that sounded terrible.
I'm thinking of combining them again and then sending it all to the left hand channel to see if that makes any difference. If not I will just have to produce two versions. I really do not want to have to do that though as I have to make 60 copies of this and I was planning to give it to a duplicator. I cannot see them being happy about this requirement.

Any suggestions please.


Comments

Control_Z wrote on 8/23/2002, 6:27 PM
Have you tried forcing all the VHS audio to the VHS mono audio track? I think you say that sounds okay, so that's your solution. But you must be careful not to let any sound reach the VHS stereo tracks because I bet that's what your nicam is sensing on playback and switching to.

Why this is happening I have no idea. I routinely shoot in stereo and edit in stereo and master to DVCAM or even LP miniDV. Our DVDs from these are in stereo, but all the VHS decks are non-stereo and thus only record mono (with the help of a y-adapter on the back of the playback DSR-11).
Beaney wrote on 8/24/2002, 12:29 PM
Thanks for the reply.
I solved the problem by splitting the left and right channels on to seperate tracks and zeroing the volume with an envelope whenever that particular track had nothing on it. That removed the white noise that was going on to the tape.
Regards