Video Pro X10

diverG wrote on 11/9/2018, 1:10 PM

Just received email from Magix offering Video Pro X10 for £119  (regular£489). Looks like a new editor for UHD, HDR.        Anyone know how X10 compares with VP16.

Limited to 13th Nov.    .

Thanks G

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john-brown wrote on 11/9/2018, 2:18 PM

Hi,

VPX is an excellent program, unless you have VP16 and are used to it. Depending on what you do, you would probably run into some limitations very quickly. The workflow is quite different (much more straight-forward than Vegas, but then I'm used to VPX, not Vegas).

Stick with VP16.

The only advantage that I can think of is being able to use Xara from within VPX to create animated and static masks and graphical overlays. But, that will probably come to Vegas at some point.

John CB

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bitman wrote on 11/9/2018, 2:43 PM

I agree with John-brown, I also have VPX and dabbled with it to a certain extend, but they are very slow to implement fixes and new stuff, in fact they implement faster on their cheaper consumer version which is almost as capable as the VPX version. Bear in mind VPX does some things better than Vegas, and more so vice versa. What annoyed me on VPX is that it is not capable to change the sequence of applied plugins to a clip, and the OFX implement with their controls needs constant scrolling to reach controls.

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diverG wrote on 11/9/2018, 3:09 PM

Will stick with VP & move from VP14 to VP16.  Edit for £109 is not unreasonable & will accept GH5S  4K media.

Thanks for prompt advice. 

Geoff

VP16 installed easily and picked up a VP14 project (now saved as '16').   Blackmagic 4K card accepted.  NBTP5 seems OK.  Only thing missing 'Mercalli' however the Vegas stabilizer does a good job.

Now for trialling 4K HDR

 

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AVsupport wrote on 11/9/2018, 4:12 PM

Create and Save LUTs IN VPX?!! 16 Bit grades?

I would have expected this feature to come to the Flagship VP16 first unless I am mistaken with priorities..

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john-brown wrote on 11/10/2018, 4:11 PM

@bitman

Magix has improved the OFX screen. Previously you had to scroll way over horizontally as well as vertically. Now it has a reasonable, standardized, width. As I use 2 monitors with my desktop, I have the Media Pool full height and just wide enough for the OFX window. Still some effects come with many rows and require vertical scrolling. No problem there.

Not being able to change the sequence of effects is, hopefully, something that will be addressed. There is a workaround, but it's a bit laborious.

VPX just caught up with MEP, for a change, which means that we can expect some new features in MEP some time soon. The duration between new features in MEP and getting them in VPX seems to have decreased significantly over the last year. The frequency of new features being issued in both has increased, but only recently. That said, there are still some persistent bugs that Magix has not taken care of. Nothing critical, just annoying. The critical ones are taken care of very quickly. There was a patch with new features early in the week, quickly followed by a patch to fix a critical (for some users) problem.

@AVsupport

Yes, there are some features where VPX leads. They went from no LUT's to saving LUT's in a relatively short time.

Remember that there are 2 different teams, so you can expect differences. VPX/MEP is done in Germany, Vegas in the USA.

John CB

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bitman wrote on 11/11/2018, 1:47 AM

I agree VPX has improved their OFX screen since their 10th anniversary edition, but the vertical scrolling on some more elaborate plugins still is a nuisance, especially so on my ultra wide screen where I obviously do not lack horizontal space, but pay the price in vertical space!

There is however one thing often forgotten which Vegas can do, and VPX can not (correct me if I am wrong), and that is scripting. Scripting is very, very powerful. If you miss a command, replace a bunch of mouse and keyboard clicks by one button or want a task automated you can script it. There are free scripts available in the community, and you can even write your own if you know a bit of programming.

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john-brown wrote on 11/11/2018, 10:45 AM

@bitman

Can't fault Magix for the many parameters of some of the plugins. But, maybe they can still optimize vertical spacing.

I just noticed something new in VPX that is not in MEP - independent colours for tracks and objects. No colours for MEP tracks. There are probably more, I just haven't looked in detail. I know the big feature differences between MEP and VPX - Source Monitor, Project Folder, measuring instruments, multi-language audio tracks - output to DVD/BR for multi-language, 9 camera multi-cam vs 4 in MEP, 3-wheel secondary colour corrections for "Highlights", "Midtones" and "Shadows" ranges, track header has more features, 3D Maker 7 included for 3D Maker titles in VPX, not in MEP, etc., 16 bit colour, it's just some newer features that may not be in both that I'm not up on.

No, VPX does not have scripting. The best there is, is the ability to save effects, title templates, collages and more, which can help automate things. In VPX, I would use a saved effect, load it, and paste it multiple times as required. One user on the MEP forum uses an external macro program for scripting.

I must look up the uses of scripting in Vegas.

I mentioned using Xara with VPX/MEP. Below is a link to a tutorial that I did that demonstrates the link between Xara and VPX for creating animated overlays. I did another one showing how to create masks (animated) using the Xara-VPX/MEP interface. As well, VPX reads XAR files directly into the timeline. Double-clicking opens the object in Xara.

Has Magix included Travel Route Animation with Vegas Pro or Vegas MS? I thought that they had. I use it a lot as my videos are usually about travel. I can quickly locate a photo on a map and save it, or a route from a gps track (or manually), and save it - right onto the timeline. Only useful if that's the kind of thing that one does.

One thing that Vegas does much better than VPX, so far as I know, is compositing.

John CB

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