Video sharing site

Chienworks wrote on 4/10/2002, 8:03 PM
Hey folks! I've created a site on my server for the Video Factory users to upload & share their video projects. We're inviting Vegas people to participate too.

http://www.vegasusers.com/vidshare/

It's just getting started so there isn't much there yet, but we're hoping it will grow quickly. If you've got something you want to share with the rest of us, please feel free to upload. I'm limiting the files to .mov .mpg .rm .wmv only, and would like to keep them around 20MB or less (about 10 minutes at 256Kbps). This is also a family site, so strive for G rated. I'll review all submissions personally before they are publicly posted.

Enjoy! We're all looking forward to seeing what fun things everyone else is doing with this software. :)

Comments

randyvild wrote on 4/10/2002, 9:21 PM
Cool Idea! I uploaded my project, The World To Come but I just realized I sent you the entire version with 30 seconds of color bar....sorry. Can you please delete that part or I could send you another version.

Randy Vild

PS Are these veiwed via streaming? I would like to do streaming on my Church web site but don't no what to do?
swarrine wrote on 4/10/2002, 10:58 PM
With VV3 you can "stream" to your web site. Once you have done your edit (shorter is better here) simply choose file>render as and take your pick of windows media, quicktime or real media. (I think for real, your server needs to be set up for it). Then upload to your server and put a link to it. Here is an example: http://www.wallacemv.com/vv3/saiplane.wmv NOTE: QT 5 required for both PC and Mac.

Although I think windows media is probably the overall best of those 3, I choose quicktime for 2 simple reasons. 1: Even though WM has a Mac version, reportedly it does not work very well. 2: On slow Internet days, you can press the pause button on QT and it keeps downloading. This means that you can "Self Buffer". In most cases just wait a minute or two and then you can watch the video in one shot, no very extremely annoying horrible (get the idea?) stop and starts.
swarrine wrote on 4/10/2002, 11:00 PM
Ooops-

Forgot to mention, this file is best viewed with broadband as it is 10 mb.
Stiffler wrote on 4/11/2002, 1:28 AM
Chienworks...I think your web site alone should be an advertisement for SF! Some of the work done with VF/VV is nothing that I thought could be done on a home PC.

Tserface, Randy...Unreal...can I do that at home, with Vegas? Very cool videos. Great work!

Jon

HeeHee wrote on 4/11/2002, 1:54 AM
OK Chienworks, we gotta know, what the heck is that in your shortdisgusting movie??????
HeeHee wrote on 4/11/2002, 10:06 AM
Jimcho,

I love the Kungfu video. Your kid is great. Very good use of stop action, slo mo, and extended cross-fades. The music was right on, too!

Question: What do you do about music copyrights and using them in your video's? I would like to do some wedding videos and insert the couple's wedding song, but I am not sure if this violates the copyrights to the music if I sell my services.

-HeeHee
tserface wrote on 4/11/2002, 12:56 PM
I'm not sure what to do about that. Most of the videos I do I use for personal or one time viewing so I figure it's no different than simply playing the CD. In the case of the video I uploaded I used less than one minute of a 6 minute song so I figured it wasn't going to do anything, but advertise the song, if that.

There is a lot of production music available, but it isn't usually as "catchy" as using a song that everyone seems to know.

Good thing to ponder. In the case of Kelly's site I think we're just having fun sharing some videos and I doubt that anything we do there is going to really hurt anyone's record sales so I don't think we'll get much hassle.

:)

Tom
tserface wrote on 4/11/2002, 12:57 PM
You don't want to know... I asked and I'm sorry I found out.

:)

Tom
jimcho wrote on 4/11/2002, 3:41 PM
HeeHee,

Thanks for the compliment. It was a lot of fun putting this video together, and very easy with VideoFactory's *OUTSTANDING* editing controls. This software never ceases to amaze me.

All of our friends got a real "kick" out of watching this video (pardon the pun).
HeeHee wrote on 4/11/2002, 4:08 PM
I agree with you as far as this video sharing site goes. My concern is if we produce and sell videos to paying customers. I don't think I would ever get into the market of distributing multiple copies of something. What I am talking about is the one time shot (Wedding video, birthday, aniversary, family reunion, etc...).

Like you said, they probably don't care about those situations, but it's better to be safe than sorry.;-)
HeeHee wrote on 4/11/2002, 4:11 PM
Jimcho,

I showed it to my coworkers at my day job, they got a "kick" out of it, too! Pun intended.

Question: Were the blurs on the stop action kick shots natural occurences or did you apply a FX?
VinceG wrote on 4/11/2002, 4:20 PM
jimcho-

Watching Noah perform his "kung-fu" moves was a very delightful experience! He is so cute to watch! And I must give credit to the video editor. You really captured and edited a masterpiece there. Your kung-fu video was the last thing I watched before going to bed last night and this morning when I woke up... guess what song was going through my mind? Yep... "Everybody was kung-fu fighting..."

Good job!
jimcho wrote on 4/11/2002, 4:26 PM
HeeHee,

The "blurs" are probably an artifact of the low bit rate WMV encoding LOL!

I actually applied a brightness filter to the stop action sequences for emphasis, which slowly returns to normal video using the "Begin" and "End" tabs of VideoFactory (which is sort of like one keyframe at the beginning and end of an event).
jimcho wrote on 4/11/2002, 4:34 PM
Vince,

Thanks for the kind words. He is a real joy to have around.

Glad you enjoyed the video.
HeeHee wrote on 4/11/2002, 4:46 PM
Jimcho,

The blur casued by the WMV encoding actually makes a great effect, be it by accident.

<<I actually applied a brightness filter to the stop action sequences for emphasis>>

Yeah, I noticed that. It really plays to the action like he's actually hitting something.

FYI - I have a 3-1/2 year old who's always doing silly stuff. Your video has given me some great ideas, Thanks!
jimcho wrote on 4/11/2002, 6:59 PM
Ahhh, I think I know what you mean by "blur". There is a small dissolve transition at the end of some of the stop action scenes. I do this to smoothly go from stop action to full motion, sort of like a poor man's velocity envelope ;)
randyvild wrote on 4/11/2002, 8:59 PM
Chien,
On your site you have dl for download and st I think for stream. How do you set up the file for a stream?
Chienworks wrote on 4/11/2002, 11:18 PM
Oh, like i'm going to give away all my web design secrets, huh?               ;)

Actually there are two important things involved. One is very simple and easy for you to do. The other is very simple and must be done by the person in control of your web server. The server must be correctly configured for the MIME-types of the media that you want to serve. To serve the Windows Media files, i had to add these lines to /etc/mime.types:

video/x-ms-asf asf asx
audio/x-ms-wma wma
audio/x-ms-wax wax
video/x-ms-wmv wmv
video/x-ms-wvx wvx
video/x-ms-wm wm
video/x-ms-wmx wmx

(Note that this is under a Unix-like OS. Under a Windows based server, the extensions come first and the type description afterwards. Go figger.)

After the server has been configured, you may set up very simple HTTP streaming by creating a plain text file that contains the URL of the media file, and giving it the appropriate extension. For WMV files, this "streaming" file would be named with .wvx , For RM files, it's .ram , for ASF files it's .asx , for WMA files it's .wax . This text file is the link you will put on the page to stream the playback. When the user clicks on the streaming file, the web browser loads it very quickly (typically less than 100 bytes; it contains just a URL), determines from the extension which player is appropriate, launches that player, and tells the player to start playing from the URL it was given. Without this streaming file, the browser would be forced to download and save the entire media file first before launching the player.

Make any sense?
randyvild wrote on 4/12/2002, 1:01 AM
Thank you! Great info!! Now I hope my server knows what this means...lol. If not I'll switch over to yours.

But when I render the project that will be streamed what is the best method you use for Windows Media and do you prefer to use this CD burn thing in Vegas?

Thanks in advance,
Randini
Chienworks wrote on 4/12/2002, 6:23 AM
Randini,                           ;)

I use the default WMV template with only three changes:
      1) crank the video quality all the way up (to the right)
      2) check "enable two pass encoding"
      3) Fill in the summary page so your clip information shows up when people play it.

Also keep in mind your target audiance. Generally the fastest bitrate that is useful for streaming is 256Kbps. Only people with cable modems, dsl, or some other broadband connection will be able to stream these. If you want to allow dial-up modem users to stream then use 56Kbps or less. If you need to go above 256Kbps for quality and clarity reasons, don't even bother trying to stream the file; just have people download it instead.
Stiffler wrote on 4/15/2002, 3:33 AM
Hello Kelly...

Could you please delete my video? I'll re-submit it later (after a couple of changes).

Thanks, Jon
Chienworks wrote on 4/15/2002, 6:11 AM
Jon, done. Hope to see the new version soon!
Chienworks wrote on 4/15/2002, 6:29 AM
Just a quick note ...

Unless your video is very short, say under 30 seconds, please encode at 256Kbps or less. I realize this isn't particularly high quality, but it's good enough to let people see what you're doing, and low enough to stream for broadband users without tying up the server resources to much. Dial-up users will also be a lot happier with you. :)

Thanks again everyone!
haywire wrote on 4/15/2002, 6:39 AM
Please be careful using copyrighted material in your videos. The laws are very clear about this, and it doesn't matter if you give the video away or sell it. You are "distributing" copyrighted material, and 1 copy or 1000, it deosn't matter. Just copying the song to your video is a violation, and everytime you make another copy, it's another violation. Posting that material on the internet is also a violation, and there are people hired by publishing companies that look for these viloations, and if the copyright lawyers come to see you, you will lose.

The Harry Fox Agency used to negotiate "synchronization licenses" (using music with video/film, etc.) but I'm not sure if they still do. Your best bet may be to negotiate directly with the songwriter or publisher for the rights to use their material.

Michael