Video Size

verner wrote on 7/26/2010, 12:03 PM
I'm on my second video editing job. 1st project went pretty well. My second project is a very long video. It's 3hrs and 40 minutes and 11.1 GB. This would be very rare that I would have a project this long. It took forever to down load the movie and now I found out I can only find DVD R disk that have a capacity of 8.5 GB. So unless someone has a source for High capacity DVD R, say 15 GB, then I was thinking I'd attempt to split the movie into two parts. I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how to split the clips and save it so that I can make two parts???

Thanks

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Chienworks wrote on 7/26/2010, 12:33 PM
The finished file size is determined by the bitrate used as much as it is by the length. You could squeeze the whole video into one 4.5GB disc if you really wanted to, but the bitrate would be very low and the quality horrible. You would have to use a bitrate of about 2.5Mbps and that's not much better than web video.

Even on a 8.5GB disc you would still only be able to use about 4.9Mbps which still isn't great. Also double-layer 8.5GB discs are fraught with issues. Some burners won't write them properly and lots of players won't play burned double-layer discs well, if at all.

I'd suggest using two or three regular 4.5GB discs. Splitting it in two would be an hour and 50 minutes on each which is just barely doable. On three discs it would be an hour and 14 minutes on each which would be very decent quality.

To break the file up you could select the first part in Vegas by highlighting it, then when rendering choose "render loop region only". After that you would highlight the next part and render that, etc.

Probably a better option is to look into the various MPEG splitting programs available. VideoRedo is highly praised and will split the file without rerendering it. 11.1GB would fit easily on 3 discs this way.
musicvid10 wrote on 7/26/2010, 12:38 PM
Single-sided DVDs come in two basic flavors -- DVD5 (4.7GB) and DVD9 (8.5GB).

3 hours, 40 minutes will fit easily on one DVD9 or two DVD5 discs. Your rendered video does not "have" to be 11GB.

Depending on which version of Movie Studio you have, you can control the bitrate (which determines the finished MPEG-2 size) in Vegas (version 10) or let DVDA do the work for you (all versions).

If you have VMS 10, use the videohelp.com bitrate calculater to determine the proper average bitrate.

That being said, I would put your project on two SL discs, because burned DL discs are not compatible with all players, and 9.4GB (combined) allows a higher bitrate than 8.5GB.

EDIT: What Kelly said, too. We were simulposting again.
verner wrote on 7/26/2010, 1:57 PM
Thanks for clarifying some info. I have Vegas Studio HD Platinum 10. I like the idea of just splitting it into 3 discs. I'm so green I can't figure out how to split my original project into three parts without just starting all over and building 3 new projects. The current project is a whole bunch of small to medium clips put together with a few pictures, some text and music at the start and end. I know there has to be a simple way to split the project into three segments. I can't figure out how to bundle the various clips into one segment. If I can figure that out, I'm sure I could save it and then I'd be on my way.

Thanks
musicvid10 wrote on 7/26/2010, 2:13 PM
You don't need to split your project into separate projects. Render the portions as you wish to use them.

Use an MPEG-2 DVD Architect template to render the video, and an AC-3 DVD template to render the audio. Change your bitrates in the Custom tab to dictate your output file size, using the bitrate calculator I suggested.

To render separate segments for two DVDs, for instance, set the loop region to the portion of the video (and audio) you wish to render. Then, check "Render loop region only" in the Render dialog. Then do the same for the rest of your video (and audio). You will now have separate files to burn to two DVDs.

This is also explained in the Help and Tutorials that come with the program. They are a good place to start.
verner wrote on 7/26/2010, 4:10 PM
Alright, I understand I don't have to split into different projects, but I still am having a hard time understanding how to highlight sections of my project. On my timeline, there must be around 60 different media clips, some text, and a few pictures, and audio music. I also somehow moved the video into the video overlay section vs the video section if that makes a difference.

So, it sounds like if I can figure out how to highlight several clips on the timeline in a group or simply seperate by time, then I'd be able to seperate into 1/3 then I could render it and do each piece onto a 4.7GB DVD + R? Is that correct. Best way to highlight? You guys must roll your eyes at us amateurs.

Thanks
musicvid10 wrote on 7/26/2010, 4:25 PM
Click "Show Me How" at the top toolbar, and click on "An Overview of the Timeline."
Step 9 of 9 will show you how to "Select a Loop Region."

Then proceed as I stated above.

Each one of the "Show Me How" tutorials contains essential information you will want to know before embarking on a complex project. Good luck!
Chienworks wrote on 7/26/2010, 5:44 PM
Really simple ... the i and o keys mark the in and out points of the selection. Your project is 3 hours, 40 minutes. To split it in thirds, move the cursor to 0:00:00;00 and press i. Now move it to the first 1/3 point, somewhere around 1:13:20;00 and press o. You will see a blue line appear above the timeline and now have the first third selected. Of course, you'll want to wiggle the 1/3 point back or forth some to a close scene break so that your viewers change the DVD between scenes rather than in the middle of a scene.

Alternatively you can drag the mouse in the same area where you see that blue line appear, or down below wherever the timeline is empty. This lets you drag a selection without having to use the keys.
verner wrote on 7/27/2010, 10:44 AM
Ok Guys,

I started with the last third and am rendering the loop. I'm pretty tight using about 119 minutes and 30 seconds out of 120 minutes available on the DVD+R 4.7 GB. I'd have rather not have gotton so tight, but I didn't have another good break in content. Hope it all fits. Just for this 1/3 it says it's going to take 3 hrs and 20 minutes to make.

Thanks again
verner wrote on 7/27/2010, 4:52 PM
Thank You very much!

Success on burning the first 1/3. Working on the next disc.

Appreciate your help!!!