VMS 8c Crashes when rendering to file

engineeringnerd wrote on 2/23/2008, 3:50 PM

PC Build:
AMD 6400+ dual core 3.2GHz
4GB RAM
8600GTS sound
FoxConn 590 Motherboard
320GB HDD for XPPro-32 NTFS (80% free)
320GB HDD for Vista 64 Home NTFS (80% free)
500GB HDD for Video Files NTFS (60% free)

Whenever I try to render medium to large video files, the process freezes and fails, usually about 15 minutes into the file or around 3.9GB. I have spent literally a hundred hours trying to figure this out, tried XP64, XP32, Vista32, Vist64 and have the same problems. I have also taken the PC to a shop and had them evaluate all the hardware, everything tested fine. They updated the BIOS & Runtime; but large files won't render. I also modified the file being rendered, took out photo's, many transistions... In my latest attempt I was rendering 640 x 480 .avi footage to NTSC DV.

The rendering always seem to fail around 3.9GB. My repair facility believes there is an incompatibility with VMS and the AMD Dual Core 6400+. Your help is needed and appreciated.

Is anyone out there running VMS8 on a AMD 6400 successfully on projects over 20 minutes?

Comments

menopausal wrote on 2/23/2008, 5:33 PM

Don't know if this will help or if you have tried this, but try doing selective pre-rendering. It works for me with large files.

Eugenia wrote on 2/23/2008, 6:15 PM

How many pictures (as opposed to video clips) do you have on that timeline?

engineeringnerd wrote on 2/24/2008, 4:38 AM

Menopausal,

Can you describe what you mean by rendering small sections and how you do this? I sometimes render individual files before putting them in the timeline. I also sometimes creat e "mini-Projects" with smaller sections rendered to file, then combine them in DVD Architect as chapters. I've also highlighted and rendered small sections in a larger file, but I believe this rendering isn't saved if you close the file.

Eugenia,

Originally I had about 25 megapixel stills pictures with pan & zooms. After reading some posts on the difficulty this can cause Vegas & VMS, I took them all out. Still crashes. I have about 25 minutes of DV.

Do you know if Vegas 8 shares the same code as VMS, or are they unique? Reason being, I'm about at the point of upgrading to V8 If I knew it would resolve my problems. I'd want to try the trial version first.

Eugenia wrote on 2/24/2008, 3:26 PM

download the trial and see if it still crashes for you or not.
The other thing i can suggest is to go exactly at the point it crashes in the timeline and remove third party plugins. This is another usual crashing failure.

menopausal wrote on 2/24/2008, 5:09 PM

Engineeringnerd:

First, I use many (and I do mean many) stills in my videos, in fact, mostly stills. Scans I made from old photos. I use primarily PNG, which seems to work fine in VMS.

Second, when you have your timeline like you want it, under TOOLS is "Selectively Prerender Video". I use this a lot. It will render the whole timeline in small increments. You get the choice of what to render to. It is stored, so that if you close the program those renders will still be there. When you are done, you can clean up the prerendered video so as to get it off the disk.

engineeringnerd wrote on 3/3/2008, 3:51 AM

I loaded Vegas Pro 8 Trial, and everything works great. I loaded much bigger files and they rendered flawlessly. I was even able to load the VMS8 project into V8, and it loaded and rendered without a hitch. In VMS the file failed render @ 3.9GB every time. In V8 it completed and the file was 10+GB.

This leads me to believe VMS has some serious bugs (as my pc tech commented) around some multicore processors; mine being a AMD 6400+.

I've written Sony tech support to see what they can do and inform them of my journey. I've loved VMS over several versions, but this is a real disappointment.