VMS DVD and Finicky DVD Player

ducnbyu wrote on 6/9/2005, 11:12 AM
I am having success going from shooting to capture to edit to burn. All is working and image and audio quality leave nothing to be desired at 9.8Mbs. However, my main DVD player can't play my DVD's. It has no problems with commerical disks. I am using DVD-R which I understand offers greatest compatibility. The machine rejects the DVD with a "disk error". However other machines in the house read just fine.

I'm using an 8x Emprex burner and even tried burning at 4x with the same result. the disks are TDK. Should I try 1x? Change disk brands? Or should I look into replacing this player?

Thanks,
Rye

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ScottW wrote on 6/9/2005, 11:19 AM
Actually, I've found better compatability with +R burned with a DVD-ROM booktype.

If the other players are reading the DVD fine, then the problem is most likely with the booktype. Many players will only play DVD's that they recognize the booktype for - if your player is very old, it might have been produced before -R was created and the player is seeing the -R booktype rather than a DVD-ROM booktype and refusing to play the disk.

You can't change the booktype on -R media; it's stamped on the DVD when it is created. Using Nero to burn along with a burner that allows the booktype to be set (like some of the LG burners as well as some others), you can change the booktype to DVD-ROM which will let the DVD play on most older players.

www.cdrinfo.com has lots of reviews of burners and every review has a "bitsetting" section that says whether the burner allows you to change the booktype or not.

--Scott
ducnbyu wrote on 6/9/2005, 1:33 PM
Thanks for the info. I should clarify that the problem player is newer than one of the other ones that works. In fact it was purchased because it is supposed to read multiple formats. It has read DVD-R copied from another DVD-R using Roxio. I'm wondering there is something about the way Vegas writes to DVD.
ADinelt wrote on 6/10/2005, 5:02 AM
It is quite possible I am getting two different topics confused and I could be totally off base here, but I thought I read somewhere that 8MBs was the highest you should go when creating DVDs as some players may have problems playing back anything higher.

Al
IanG wrote on 6/10/2005, 5:12 AM
You're right - 9.8Mb/s is the highest allowed by mpeg2, but 8 is generaly seen as the practical limit.

Ian G.
stilltrying wrote on 6/10/2005, 5:58 AM
I have had the same problem & am sure it is a problem with the way Vegas writes to DVD. See the link below in DV Architect Forum for some ideas.

I had the same problem, but have found I can edit in Vegas & actually burn in Nero & the resulting DVD's seem to play on all players I have tried.

http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?MessageID=382997&Replies=31

There seems to be a number of posts stating this same problem. Surely Sony could address this with an update or patch.
ducnbyu wrote on 6/10/2005, 2:35 PM
Thanks for the replies... I wondered why the default came up as 8Mbps. I'll have to try that. I also tried to burn the image (from my original prepare) to DVD+R and it played on my main dvd player but the copy looked like the camera lens was extremely dirty. In other words the images were very grainy, but the grain particles were stationary with respect to the screen and didn't move as the scene panned. The DVD-R when played on the other player connected to a standard TV looked crystal clear.

Was that due to the HD tv showing flaws that don't show on standard?

Or was it the 9.8Mbps?

Or was it because it needs to re-render (from AVI) when changing DVD format?

Thanks again,
Rye
jimmyz wrote on 6/11/2005, 1:33 AM
I find that the manufacturer of the dvd makes a huge difference.
I get the exact error on some discs. Purchased dvd's are stamped
as opposed to burned so your discs will always be less compatable. I've tried changing bitrates and type of disc but the only constant is some ( especially cheaper ) media doesn't play on some players. The current ritek -r's have been perfect so far.