vob question

RiRo wrote on 12/26/2003, 10:23 AM

Here's my delima. A friend said he would buy me a DVD burner If I would edit some video his church did. I said ok. He bought the burner.

He gives me a DVD, and I discover Vegas will not open the vob files. He wants some editing done, and of course, without quality loss from compression/re-compression.

The meat of the question:

1. How do I get a vob file into vegas
2. What format should I save to out of vegas
3. How do I get it back to a vob file and on a new DVD

I am not trying to hack commercial DVDs, just one shot on a pro DV cam and edited in AVID.

Thanks for your help

RiRo

Comments

JohnnyRoy wrote on 12/26/2003, 10:52 AM

Sometimes you can just copy the VOB file to your hard drive and rename it with an MPG extension. If that doesn’t work, check out dvdrhelp.com. They have lots of info on how to rip DVD’s. SmartRipper is one of the easier ones to use. I’ve had to do this because I use AC3 on my DVD’s and Vegas cannot read AC3 files back in after it creates them. I’ve actually captured one of my DVD’s via an ADS Pyro A/V Link box to test its quality and the resulting AVI file looked fine to me. I couldn’t tell any degradation in quality.

~jr

TomG wrote on 12/26/2003, 12:13 PM

I had this problem a year ago and I went back and here is the work flow I use to convert .vob files to V4. I would paste the reference to the topic but not sure how to do it. Hope this helps:

1. Copy .vob file to HD
2. Run .vob file through dvd2avi
3. Run the .dv2 file through vfapiconv to get .avi markers
4. Run .vfapiconv file into V4

TomG

Jsnkc wrote on 12/26/2003, 12:25 PM

OR just capture it using a analog capture device.

kentwolf wrote on 12/26/2003, 3:49 PM

>>...OR just capture it using a analog capture device.

That's what I did, and depending on the quality of your source material, it can work very, vey well.

...did for me...

Radiation wrote on 12/29/2003, 1:40 AM

I rename .vob to .mpg

I then import the mpg file into vegas, but their is no sound track, so i use something like goldwave to extract the audio to a wav file and then import that into vegas.

Works for me every time ... hope this helps.

andyd wrote on 12/30/2003, 6:36 AM

Guess What? I just had this same problem and spent 190+ hours trying to fix this -
PREMIERE can import it if it is renamed to a *.mpg file !!!
Vegas only imports the first few seconds, it appears to be a bug in the timestamp. It sees a 20 minute file as a 20 second file - OOOOOPPPPPPPSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

I imported my DVD camcorder's files into premiere and saved them as an AVI file (2.0 can only happen on NTFS drive, mind you so I get the full gigabyte capacity of AVi not this 4 gig limitation crap!!! a FAT 32 drive will automatically cap you at 4 gigabytes!!!)

Guys this is a serious bug in vegas, you MUST FIX ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kameronj wrote on 12/30/2003, 6:51 AM

Andyd.....this is not a bug that needs to be fixed. Vegas can import VOB file plopped right on the timeline. I do it all the time.

If you like premiere so much....then just use premiere. Seems to fix that little issue.

As far as the 4 gig limit....NTFS fixes fixes that little issue too. Anyone who is serious about PC video editing knows not to monkey with a drive under FAT 32 - or to monkey with Premiere....oooooppppssss - did I just dis premiere?

Bottom line - what the user is asking for is very possible to do and nothing desperately needs to be fixed with Vegas to do it.

TomG wrote on 12/30/2003, 7:33 AM

kameronj, I have to disagree with you... I have never been able to just plop a VOB on the timeline and get it to work. I experience the same thing as ANDYD. Maybe there are different type of VOB files since they are, I think, just an envelope which contains the video/audio file structures.

I don't think it's necessairly a bug that needs to be fixed right now since there are workarounds available. It would be nice in the future to be able to lay in any type of VOB file on the timeline and work with it.

TomG

KJerome wrote on 12/30/2003, 12:49 PM

I agree with TomG. I haven't been able to figure it out. The video plays but there is no Audio. The programs talked about to convert audio to avi are too complicated to figure out. It isn't as simple as open and convert. I agree that they should fix the problem in Vegas. If the video is able to work, but not the audio I think it is a bug.

Korey

Chienworks wrote on 12/30/2003, 2:31 PM

VOB files are MPEG video files that can contain several different types of audio streams. The audio stream can be PCM (basically a .wav file), MPEG-audio (similar to MP3), AC3, or nonexistant. Vegas will be able to use the audio if it is PCM or MPEG. It will not use AC3 audio streams.

Jsnkc wrote on 12/30/2003, 2:58 PM

I don't think it's a bug, nowhere in the documentation for Vegas does it say that it WILL import VOB files. Just something that someone tried once and noticed in kind of worked, but it is not a feature of Vegas.
You should capture from the DVD via Analog capture, if for some reason you can't do that becasue of copy protection or macrovision then you shouldn't be doing it anyways.

TomG wrote on 12/30/2003, 4:21 PM

The message I listed above was for 16mm home footage that I was preserving. A lab converted the 16mm to a DVD-R format. I could not drop the vob files onto the timeline. There was no audio involved so that wasn't the issue. Instead, I only got a very compressed event on the timeline. Actual time was 78 min but only showed up as 30 sec on the timeline. After various tips from this forum, the DVD2AVI and VFAPIConv route worked just great.

I guess I could have used an analog converter but never used one before (and not even sure what this is... Is this a product from Canopus or a separate board that accepts analog?