VP 9.0e Multicam switching takes problem

jim cowan wrote on 2/26/2012, 4:05 PM
Hi,
First real problem. Currently running 9.0e (never installed 10, need to
finish building new computer for 11)

Nominal work flow is 3 camera shoot with center wide fixed, 2 cameramen
outside doing closeups. Sound from soundboard and stage lip mics, recorded
separately (2 stereo, 4 tracks). Generally two continuous takes, 40m to 1h20m
in length, handled in separate .veg files. Alignment by hand (PluraEyes wasn't
always successful, takes too long). After everything is lined up, build multicam
and edit. Too bad there isn't a take switch counter, very seldom 1m on a take,
on this show counted one minute where there 7 multicam takes. Maybe 200
to 300 in an hr.

I have seen this on my 9.0e:
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=764076

I've learned to be very careful when ctrlZ'ing (undo) to make sure the edit
point stays with the timeline cursor/preview window.

Finally the problem I just encountered:

What I haven't seen til now (and caught it on reviewing the master Dvd before
copying) was a loss of camera switches. Bringing the .veg up again I can see
all the take changes are there, but everything was to just one camera.

Maybe I made a mistake. Can you highlight a section of the timeline and
switch all the takes to one camera? Otherwise I think I found a bug. When I
edit I only work a few timeline minutes at a time reviewing the latest few
camera take changes to verify the visual (though usually still in multimode)
and with the ctrl-Z problem I thought I would have caught these take changes
that weren't. Maybe they were messed up on save/restore?

Ok, they're not going to fix it, just wanted to know if anyone else had
experienced it.

Hope to be up on I7/W7/VP11 soon.

thanks
jim

Comments

Byron K wrote on 2/26/2012, 6:23 PM
I've experienced a similar issue w/ 9 where some of the camera cuts didn't cut to the right cam. I had to re import the original event from the cam I wanted and manually cut it in. (didn't have the time or patience to explore the root cause of this anomaly.)

One nice feature in VP10 is you can export the multi camera track back to separate tracks which is a god send to do touch-ups and time cuts just right.
Arthur.S wrote on 2/27/2012, 5:39 AM
Must admit, never had that problem with 9e. Always been good to me. How does that export back to separate tracks work Byron?
Byron K wrote on 2/28/2012, 3:32 AM
The Expand to multiple tracks is a feature in VP10.
http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu208/bk-vegas/ExpandtoMultipleTracks.jpg

Original 4 camera event on separate tracks:
http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu208/bk-vegas/OriginalMultiCam.jpg

Tracks expanded w/ the events on separate tracks after cuts have been made.
http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu208/bk-vegas/Expandedtracks.jpg

The white events are active events and the grey events are muted.
jim cowan wrote on 2/28/2012, 8:56 PM
Hi,
Thanks for the replies and tip. When I start using VP11 I'll
take a look at your suggestion.

thanks
jim cowan
Arthur.S wrote on 2/29/2012, 6:29 AM
Thanks for that Byron.
Byron K wrote on 2/29/2012, 1:06 PM
No problemo!