VP12 won't accept certain AVI files on timeline

Tech Diver wrote on 12/17/2012, 11:21 AM
I just upgraded from VP10e to VP12 build 394. Now I am no longer able to drop certain types of AVI files onto the timeline. I never had this problem with VP10e or any of the versions going back to Vegas 6.

AVI files that DO NOT work have the following codecs:
IV50 Indeo 5.x
cvid Cinepak by Supermac

AVI files that DO work have the following codecs:
(_RGB) BI_RGB Raw Bitmap
dvsd DVC/DV Video

Has anyone else experierenced this?

Note that Windows media player has no problems playing all the files, and all the AVI codecs that I mentioned are properly registered (according to GSpot Codec Detector).

Peter

EDIT: New details! - This is a 32-bit vs 64-bit issue. VP10 64-bit has the same problems as VP12. However, VP10 32-bit works fine. Also, I noticed that in the 32-bit version you get a lot more codecs listed in the AVI rendering options than in the 64. Any suggestions?

Comments

videoITguy wrote on 12/17/2012, 2:04 PM
The Indeo and Cinepak are all old codecs going back to the earliest version of Windows VFW origins. They served their purpose well in the Windows98SE era and honestly I still like the INDEO 5.x on Windows XP 32 bit even now. They were intended as multi-media codecs before the real growth of the Internet - so used as multi-media off CDROM and harddrive. Yes, they were developed and capped at 32bit.
Indeo5.x was good enough at high data rates that it had some following for being a good compressed archive codec. That particular usage will have to fall by the wayside as the 64bit world comes on strong.
musicvid10 wrote on 12/17/2012, 2:12 PM
Find a computer that still has Win 98SE and transcode them to something your OS will accept. That's the only solution that has worked for me.
Tech Diver wrote on 12/17/2012, 3:21 PM
Thank you both for your answers. Fortunately, I still have VP10 (32 bit) on another machine and can do the transcoding there.

Peter
Kit wrote on 12/17/2012, 5:20 PM
I've had this problem as well with avi as well. And also with swf. Vegas 12 won't handle it - older versions did. My problem is that I have a lot of old clips that I frequently use and now I can't. Vegas 12 is only 64 bit so I feel it should have some tools built in for converting files to formats it can use.

Kit
DataMeister wrote on 12/17/2012, 6:55 PM
Can you manually register the 32bit codecs into WOW64 and then have Vegas x64 see them?
Tech Diver wrote on 12/17/2012, 6:59 PM
Yes, you can manually register the codecs with the commands:
regsvr32 C:\Windows\sysWOW64\ir41_32.ax
regsvr32 C:\Windows\sysWOW64\ir50_32.dll
but that will still only allow the use of Indeo AVI files with 32-bit applications. I have found that the Indeo web site explicitly states that their codec does not run in 64-bit environments and they have no plans to make it do so.

Since my original post this afternoon, I transcoded all the problematic Indeo and Cineform AVI files (about a dozen or so) into MPEG2 format by using the 32-bit version of Vegas Pro 10.

Peter
DataMeister wrote on 12/17/2012, 7:07 PM
One thing I've been wondering for the last couple of years, is whether Vegas x64 uses the VfW codecs like the 32 bit version or did they upgrade it to DirectShow or perhaps the latest Media Foundation framework?

Does anyone know?