VV4.5!

k1j wrote on 1/17/2003, 5:49 PM
Dear Vegas 4.0 Creators:

Vegas4.0 or 4.5 Should:

1-have the ability to export Video & image files in all standard formats from TIFF Sequence, Targa Sequence to Avid and Lightworks compatible file (extensions)

2-In sound field Vegas should have the automation ability; It should be controllable from an external digital or midi mixer (Like NUENDO’s)

3-Vegas must support all standard and common DV codecs (like matrox Codec)

4-We should have an option in Vegas to export and Import our Videos or still images to and from softwares like Photoshop, Clean, Combustion…etc.

5-Vegas should have the ability to accept HD format Videos through HD capturing hardware and it should support SDI and RGB inputs.

6-I wish for a similar Plug-in like “Cinema Tools” for Vegas to give us the power of accurate 24fps film editing and generating the final 24fps Cut list.

7-In surround mixing, we should control the Panning with external controllers or joysticks (something like the Minnetonka’s software does)

8-We should be able to export our sound project as Pro-Tools compatible project.

9-Vegas DV Codec should be compatible with other Digital Video editing Hard and softwares.



Comments

brey wrote on 1/17/2003, 6:00 PM
maybe vegas 5 or 6 maybe. probably cost around $1500. vegas cant be the central hub of everything video, including other software. i just dont see it happpening.
decrink wrote on 1/17/2003, 6:01 PM
You should:

1. Use everything else.
2. Start your own company.
rextilleon wrote on 1/17/2003, 6:06 PM
LOL---We already looking for Vegas Video 4.5---LOL

Hey, my needs are alot simpler---


1. Bin setup is improvement but still has a ways to go---It would be nice to be able to save events to bins and to have more control over configuration of bins.

2. EDL so I can easily defend Vegas when my FCP, and Avid friends look for faults-


Other then that---I am very pleased and like Marty Helder said---considering that the company was under a considerable amount of financial duress over the last year, they did one hell of a job!
brey wrote on 1/17/2003, 6:07 PM
what is EDL? ive seen it a lot in this forums.
snicholshms wrote on 1/17/2003, 6:11 PM
Decrink gets the award for "Most direct response of the day"! Next time...don't candy coat it!
wcoxe1 wrote on 1/17/2003, 6:30 PM
I, for one, don't enjoy, or want, bloatware.
FuTz wrote on 1/17/2003, 6:49 PM
what's bloatware?
ibliss wrote on 1/17/2003, 7:20 PM
bloatware - Software overloaded with features that never get used, and actually slow down the workflow by cluttering up the workspace.
Chienworks wrote on 1/17/2003, 8:05 PM
EDL is "Edit Decision List". It's a way of exporing the contents and structure of a project into a generic format that other editing systems (humans included) can make use of.
BillyBoy wrote on 1/17/2003, 8:11 PM
LOL! Version #4 isn't even released yet and already people want features in version five or siz.
Spot|DSE wrote on 1/17/2003, 10:38 PM
The moment I see Vegas start using a joystick for surround, I'll go back to using ProTools.
Good hell, Vegas 4 ISN'T EVEN RELEASED YET!!!!

I'll bet that on Christmas morn, you were the kid that threw away all your new toys before you got to breakfast. Or broke them.
The only REASONABLE request up there is hardware support.
Matrox codec is STANDARD? Where the hell did that come from? Why is Matrox now writing drivers for standard OHCI then?
ProTools compatible would be nice, but unnecessary with scripting now available.
HD? I agree. Raise the price of Vegas by triple, make it so people that can afford 10,000.00 hardware cards can buy it and feel good about what they spend. Do you have a 10,000.00 card?
SOFO is in financial straits and you want them to pay royalties to Adobe to export to PSD? And why would you WANT to export video projects to PSD?
Vegas DOES support SDI and RGB inputs. Via analog hardware. I have a Laird BlueFlame. For 3000.00, you too can own one.
In truth, I suspect you are a sleeper from another product, scared sh**less of Vegas and what can be done with it, so rather than celebrate the new version, you nitpick the silly little things you can get at.
Cheesehole wrote on 1/18/2003, 1:01 AM
tough crowd... I actually like the first two suggestions.

1. Image sequence export: for better interoperability with other compositing/effects packages and 3d studio max but did you know they implemented a scripting function that can do this in VV4?

2. externally controllable faders: just a great all around feature for live performance and for those who like real knobs and sliders.

I've barely scratched the surface of VV4 so I'm not complaining.
JonnyMac wrote on 1/18/2003, 1:16 AM
There's a demo script in the 4.0 package that lets you export a sequence of stills. It seems to me that the script engine/interface is one of the most important aspects of V4 as it will let a lot of people add custom functionality to Vegas. We'll be share VEG files AND scripts before to long.
pgfitzgerald wrote on 1/18/2003, 11:23 AM
I agree with you about the hardware support (if you're talking about control surfaces like the SAC 2.2 or the Mackie Control).

I've been asking for it since before Vegas 3... Hopefully one day. :-)

Paul
roger_74 wrote on 3/19/2003, 8:57 AM
"The moment I see Vegas start using a joystick for surround, I'll go back to using ProTools."

Good thing it's optional then... :-)
BillyBoy wrote on 3/19/2003, 9:22 AM
I always get a kick out of those claiming a feature rich application is "bloatware"
Like Photoshop? I mean come on. Like Vegas, both applications can be used at a rather basic level and you still get good results. But the extras are worth learning anf you get BETTER results if you take the time to do so. Curves for example in both appliations. <wink>

That is not to say Vegas should evolve into a Swiss army knife application that does everything, from word pressing to spreadsheets to video editing, etc., but for example it could have included DVD-A instead of making that a seperate and in my opinion clumsy application with a different interface that's a shadow of the elegence of the Vegas interface. Oh well... Nobody's perfect.
VIDEOGRAM wrote on 3/19/2003, 12:08 PM
What I would like is a better titler. The ability to import a graphic or create a background without having to do it on multiple layers would be a big time saver.
Another feature would be a visible keyframe timeline for the video event fx (like in the event pan/crop). I loose lots of time when I want to change a parameter at a giving frame on a clip where I applied an effect.
DigiMortal wrote on 3/19/2003, 12:51 PM
Vegas & DVD Architect must have support for DTS & MLP encoders and DECODERS.

I Think.
wcoxe1 wrote on 3/19/2003, 2:31 PM
Feature Rich = Bloatware isn't at all what I am talking about. More like "Insurance Poor." That is a person that has bought so much insurance that they don't have enough money left to live decently on.

Bloatware is software that has been filled with things which are not essential to the task at hand. Lots of people have opinions on what is essential, of course, but if it is widely used, I call it essential. If one in a million (wouldn't it be nice if V 4 sold a million) people asked for this, and got it, and another one in a million asked for that, and got it, and so on, and these things were not essential, first thing you know you have a program that is bloatware. Filled with stuff that only one in a few million would ever even consider using. End result, slow, buggy, hard-to-use mess, rather than sleek, well thought out, fast: V4.

I, for one, have been pleasantly surprised with the speed of development since 3.0a. No complaints, except that I may not live long enough to see everything there is to see in this world. I suspect that Vegas will continue rapid development. In fact, judging from the responses to my direct mail about problems and suggestions to SoFo, I am positive that development is well on the way.
vicmilt wrote on 3/19/2003, 3:45 PM
The only thing I am missing (from my AVID MC) is the ability to insert edit directly to tape from the timeline.

This may be a Motion JPEG vs DV render issue, but it sure was nice to be able to "punch in" 10 fixed frames, or to remix 20 seconds of audio, on a half hour completed tape.

Now, you've got to redo the entire tape (and then discover another 10 "not quite there" frames to deal with.
VIDEOGRAM wrote on 3/19/2003, 4:38 PM
Another thing that would be VERY nice is to have more/better cookie filters ... perhaps a scissor tool to create odd forms for mattes. I come from AFTER EFFECTS and this is a tool I use very often.

Gilles
JJKizak wrote on 3/19/2003, 6:54 PM
I'm still dazzeled by the existing tools, one of which is the color
saturation FX. I haven't even tried half the stuff that's in the program
and I figure to be about dead before that happens.

JJK
theigloo wrote on 3/19/2003, 7:02 PM


There's a great program that's free and does image sequencing.

Search this forum for it.