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Alan - thank you - You are probably spot on about stubby fingers - would you believe, after many years of PC usage, I didn't even know there was an Insert key - it seems to be located differently on different keyboards, but there it is on this keyboard, not far from Back Space and Delete - easy for a stubby finger to hit!!

Wrant mode dissolved.

You can go to the Options menu, and in the Edit tab put a check mark in the "Use the INS key for paste." Then, if you accidentally press the INS key, all you'll get is an unwanted pasted which, hopefully, you'll immediately see and be able to undo with a single command.

There are other things you can do to completely defeat the INS key, if you really want to kill this thing, but it's more than I can get into.

Thanks John - no, I don't want to defeat the Insert key - now that I've found it, I want to use it!

Hi Peter -
So sorry to hear of your mishap, etc.

One method of working (held over from a zillion years ago) that I use and INSIST that my staff use, is the continual saving of files in a "Save As" format.
Wright-1.veg
Wright-2.veg
Wright-3.veg
etc.

How often - well, for me, a lot.
It takes so little space to do this sort of series, and protects so much from crashes, idea changes and (as in your case) inadvertant deletions, etc.

Too little - too late - but there's still a future for you.

best,
v

Peter, another very good use of the Insert key is in Vegas' credit roll generator. Pressing the Insert key inserts a new blank line in the credits. For some odd reason this is something that many people don't discover on their own and then complain that they can't find any way to insert lines.

Nice one Kelly - thanks.

For some odd reason this is something that many people don't discover on their own and then complain that they can't find any way to insert lines.

Yeah, God forbid that this should be in plain view in the manual.

For some odd reason this is something that many people don't discover on their own . . .

Just a guess here, but maybe because it is not explained well enough at the point when they need it to be explained? Maybe the explanation is too far away, not clear enough or too frustrating to understand? Just a guess here?

. . and then complain that they can't find any way to insert lines.

Well, if "many people" can't find what they want to know, at the point where and when they need it, through dint of their own efforts, then I can understand why they would complain. But you find that "odd". I don't. I understand that completely.

But maybe I haven't understood you correctly?

Not wishing to wander too far away from Peter's original post - advice on the INSERT key - where does it say in the Vegas Manual to use the "Ins" key to insert a Credit Roll line between two lines of .. er . .Credits?

It does say that if I want to add a new item, click the <Insert text here> box (Oh, BTW, as far as I can ascertain, this a "box" -here read "line of text" and thenceforth described as an "Item" - is it depicted in italics as per the display in this "box" within the Credits text Pane. And that I found opaque beyond belief! Anyway . . . ) and start typing. A new row is created at the bottom of the credit roll.

But I don't WANT to add a new row at the bottom of the credit roll - I want to insert a new line "between" two other, existing lines that have the "same" style. How do I do that? Where is it explained what I need to do, to achieve this? Where does it explain - I'm re-reading both the on-line help and V6 Manual here - that I need to highlight the row that I want pushed down, and then press the INS key? Tell me where? I couldn't find it then, and I can't find it now and I kinda know my way around Vegas by now.

I only give this example to explain why I understand why "many people", that once having read what they have, they then might complain.

I know Coursie said this in fewer words, and not with a little humour, but I wanted to underline just how the "detail" maybe confusing, frustrating and opaque.

Actually, I really would like to know just where it is explained to use the INS key to do the insert between rows, so I could point new users at it.

Hmmmm, i've never looked for this in the manual. My thought processes went something like this ...

Ooops, i left out a line in the credits. I need to

Hmmmm, i've never looked for this in the manual. My thought processes went something like this ...

Well, I did and in the online help.

Well, most software uses the insert key to enable inserting.

What a NEW line? A New line of text? Press the INS key here within any of the text editors I use, and I get Peter's thing - text being written-over. This I know. These truths I hold to be self evident. For you not. So why would I realise or want to press the INS key to INSERT a line?

When I want to insert a new line in a a text editor: Word, Wordpad, Notepad - I press ENTER. Now, guess where that got me in the Credit Roll? And around I would go, again!

Tell me? Is the INS key used in programing? To INSERT a line? Above and or below a line of code?

I'm glad you "discovered" this Kelly - 'cos I remember YOU telling me this way back. But, and please hear this, neither did find it in the Manual nor the online help and as a result it WAS truly frustrating.

Calm down dear. It's only an advert!

Grazie,
I'm glad you said that, cause as I read above I too did a bit of a double take. And here's the really annoying bit. Much is made of how Vegas adheres to as many Windoz conventions as possible, well when it doesn't, this being a case in point, it really goes down some oddball paths.
There's a few other doozies in DVDA to do with graphics selections which always drive me nuts.

Bob