All be well? Redo hours of work?

Audio doesn't take that long to render.

You're missing the whole point. Multiple rendering is STUPID. I make a DV tape as backup, so I'm suppose to render one project for that and now do a different one for burning a DVD and then it only supports video then render a seperate wav file?

That's what you're trying to say only takes a "little" time?

Right now I'm so pissed off at Sonic Foundy I'm temped to send both Vegas and DVDA back. Weeks of work for nothing.

Everything is half ass backwards. If DVDA can't accept a file AS IS then damn it say so before it accepts it and you go through a whole shit load of work for nothing. I spend hours trimming my first DVD project in DVDA to get the max out of the DVD and now it down the drain.

Ulead's cheap little DVD Movie factory is so far and away so much simpler to use it isn't even funny. The little DVDA adds isn't worth the headaces.

You're missing the whole point. Multiple rendering is STUPID. I make a DV tape as backup, so I'm suppose to render one project for that and now do a different one for burning a DVD and then it only supports video then render a seperate wav file?


Probably not MISSING the point but rather MISUNDERSTANDING. If you are archiving on tape, you have to render as AVI first. If you want to make a DVD, you have to render as MPEG2 and AC3 or WAV (Yes it is TWO renders - or you can use the script that does both for you with one step). So... you are talking about two renders versus three renders so I DON'T understand the big problem. It's NOT a separate project, it's a separate RENDER.

What you apparently don't understanding is this is so MICKEY MOUSE. I've come to expect QUALITY from Sonic Foundy. DVDA may be one of their applications but for use it is no Vegas. I'm not even talking about the large number of really stupid coding errors that were in the release product that should have been found by beta testers, that's a whole seperate issue.

The application is misleading, deceptive even. I'll write a separate article and explain why I feel that way.

It is also my opinion that this software falls short of expectations and is very restrictive. Many of us have been impressed with VV and with the recent release VV4. This DVDA audio business is "Mickey Mouse" compared to other programmes. Probably 625 users feel it more than 525 users. Standard DVD output from VV4 is MPEG audio but DVDA doesn't accept it even though this is a perfectly valid format for 625 and supported by most other authoring sofware. If you are someone who has made several DVDs (625) with other packages and transferred across to DVDA expecting a flexible professional product with tight VV integration then like me you would be disappointed. Regards John I

I think you have all been spoiled by the great quality of Sonic Foundry Products. I spent 3 months trying to get Premiere to work without a system fault when I first used it. I couldn't even get my first version of DVD Workshop to burn a disk. Just because the first version of DVD Architect (a completely new system) dosen't do just everything you expected it to do, the way you expected it to do you are all complaining. If DVD Architect is not satisfactory, use Vegas to make your videos and burn with another program. I have total faith that as DVD Architect progresses it will become the best affordable DVD editing software available. Give those guys a break. They have developed great software while their company is experienceing finincial difficulties. They have been developing the software while providing comprehensive and timely customer support. I have read several threads on this forum with multiple responses from Sonic Foundry staff with detailed answers and explainations to user questions or concerns. If you have ever tried to get support or answers from Adobe, Steinburg, Sonic Solutions, Ulead, etc. you can clearly appriciate the kind of products and customer support the Sonic Foundry provides. If you have suggestion in regard to potential improvements to the system let them know but don't accuse them of bad system development. If it weren't for those guys we would still stuck with systems that couldn't do decent multi track audio editing and had limited real time preview capability.

I have heard this argument before, but lets look at it from another perspective. So far there haven't been many reviews of DVDA. What will it do for the sales of a financially strapped SF to have negative reviews? I DOUBT that the reviewers will point up the argument that :

"Just because the first version of DVD Architect (a completely new system) dosen't do just everything 'we' expected it to do, the way 'we expected it to you 'shouldn't' complain. If DVD Architect is not satisfactory, use Vegas '(or some other program)' to make your videos and burn with another program"

...and then go on to recommend that you buy it anyway because SF will eventually patch it into a reliable product while giving you unparalleled tech support. And by the way, if you are confused by a lack of documentation they have an excellent user's forum.

Think about it. I don't see how this program as released will help SF financially except through possibly our loyal fan base.

I still haven't installed it. Someone in another thread is complaining now that their Pioneer 104 (of all things)will no longer burn after patching to 1.0a. I am still hearing of problems with the popular Sony model as well. What if that happens to a reviewer?

John

Especially since many magazine reviewers are about as computer literate as your average doorknob.

BillyBoy,
I agree with many of your viewpoints of SOFO products. I back up my video projects to DVCAM, as you do. If we need to burn a DVD from our backup- we must rerender the DV backup to MPEG2 no matter what! I have a client that requires Beta SP, VHS and DVD dubs of the work I do for them. No matter what software product/hardware you use...be it Avid Symphony, Premiere or Vegas....you WILL have to render your project twice. Once for DVD (MPEG2) and once for video formats (AVI). I may be wrong, but I think you are so frustrated...you did not think it through. Trust me - I feel your frustration. As professionals- we tend to find "work arounds" for software flaws- we have to.....I appreciate you taking the time to post your frustrations- it helps all of us in the longrun! Thanks