What Is Smallest Broadcast Quality File Size?

beatnik wrote on 3/1/2005, 7:42 PM
I have a 1 minute video to be broadcast on tv. The client wants the file
sent to his ftp site via ftp. I think they want to place this video into a
video editor (AVID?) to do a little work on it. I told him that he needs it
to be in uncompressed quicktime. The file size for this is 2.4 gig! Too big
for ftp. Are ther any other formats I can send this file via ftp and still be
able to broadcast?

Alex

Comments

Spot|DSE wrote on 3/1/2005, 7:46 PM
You could send it as a DV compressed avi, if you know what they're doing with it. You could send it as a 4:2:2 YUV if you don't know what they're doing with it. Either way, it's gonna be a big file. I hope you/they have a fast pipe. You could also send as a sequential TGA, that would save a little on size, but not much. 4:2:2 YUV will be your best "blind shot" format.
Liam_Vegas wrote on 3/1/2005, 7:47 PM
So.. er... whats wrong with burning the file to DVD (as a raw AVI file on the disk - not as MPEG2)... and then fedexing it overnight?

Simply trying to upload such a large file would take an immense amount of time as well.

You <coukd> render as DV AVI - and that would be about 216MB... but still... that will likely take a while to upload (and for them to download).
Chienworks wrote on 3/1/2005, 7:52 PM
I'll second the data DVD idea. It will probably arrive before the transfer could be finished anyway.

I recently did a 10.8 GB ftp transfer from my church to home. It took about 47.5 hours. We've got high speed cable at both ends, but the limiting factor is that the upload speed on cable runs at about 384Kbps.
riredale wrote on 3/1/2005, 7:57 PM
MPEG2 as used in DVDs can run as hot as roughly 8Mb/sec (60MB for 1 min) or about half that if the compression is carefully done (30MB for 1 min).

I would assume one could compress into a more-exotic format such as wmv at about half that size and get equivalent quality. A 15MB file is easy to send over the internet.
TheHappyFriar wrote on 3/1/2005, 8:20 PM
Are you SURE they need to edit it? At the station we worked at we accepted mpeg-2 files for our commercial inserter. Maybe that's what they want.

But fed-ex/UPS/airborne (or whatever they are now)/USPS overnight is the way to go.

All you'd have to do is call them, tell them when you want it picked up, how you want it shipped, and then decide on who's going to pay the $$$ for it.

But, it could get expensive. If they live within 4-5 hours it is probley cheaper just to drive it there & charge for miles.
Spot|DSE wrote on 3/1/2005, 8:20 PM
I surely wouldn't want to have them editing an MPEG2 though, unless it was a short GOP at a very high datarate, and if it's an AVID, it won't accept it. At that point, the YUV file will be approximately the same size. Same with the WMV.
Chienworks/Liam's DVD suggestion is the most sensible one, but if the client wants it on the FTP/via FTP....then set it up to run all night.
TheHappyFriar wrote on 3/1/2005, 10:05 PM
Noone mentioned zipping the file. That could cut about 10% off the size. Maybe. :)

Or, if they REALLY want it on FTP & a DV-AVI, break the file in to ~25-50mb chunks. Use a program like Filezilla & you can continue the upload if you get cut off instead of re-starting (that's where the chunks come in handy too).

It shouldn't take them more then 2 8 hour nights to download ~250mb. I've done it on dialup MANY times. ;)
Coursedesign wrote on 3/1/2005, 10:20 PM
I downloaded the 133MB HD file from Italy in 25 minutes on a 768K Business DSL line.

Will try it on my dual T-1 line, might be even better.

A couple of 100MB really isn't as bad as it used to be (unless on dialup)...



Lili wrote on 3/25/2005, 9:40 AM
beatnik,
How was this issue finally resolved? just curious - thanks.
lili
Stonefield wrote on 3/25/2005, 11:53 AM
768K Business DSL line....mmmmmm
Dual T-1 line.....mmmmmm x 2

Talk about a nice connection....
Coursedesign wrote on 3/25/2005, 4:11 PM
Yes, I have 2 offices.

Business DSL is worth the extra cost IMHO. You get a fixed IP address, higher reliability and the connection stays up. Consumer DSL shares a rack of modems at the CO so you have to log in each time, etc.

It has been down only twice in the 5 years I have had it, and each time it was fixed quickly.

The funny thing is that last year they dropped my rate to $40 per month. Guess they have written off my equipment by now...
FrigidNDEditing wrote on 3/26/2005, 7:42 AM
I'm jelous Course - dual T1 !?!?!?!? - You butthead! ;-)

Well, I'll just keep pluggin away with my 56K blazin connection ;-)

Dave
Chienworks wrote on 3/26/2005, 8:18 AM
I once got a quote on an OC-48 line into my home. 2.5Gbps, or, 2,500,000Kbps. Wooooooo.

I didn't quite have enough pennies in my piggy bank. :(