What is the <u>C</u> in trimmer for?

Former user wrote on 9/18/2006, 4:24 AM

If you have a section highlighted (selected) in the trim window the copy option should be active. Select it and then you can paste it to the timeline.

Grazie wrote on 9/18/2006, 4:47 AM

Try that again Jim?

1- Highlight Loop in Trimmer - Done.

2- Now I hit C

3- Click on position on T/L and Paste? Nothing.

I'm talking about using the "C" keyboard shortcut - as in ALT+C - or something like that.

In the RT click drop down menu, for the Trimmer, the C in Copy is underlined - implying I can USE the letter C to Copy. True or false?

Yes I can COPY by using the drop down menu, but NOT the Keyboard shortcut of C.

farss wrote on 9/18/2006, 4:59 AM

Shouldn't that be Ctl+C?

Standard Windoz.

Grazie wrote on 9/18/2006, 5:12 AM

ALT+E then C gets you COPY

ALT+E the P gets you PASTE

I was "loosely" explaining the use of a KB combo.

Ctrl+C don't get me anything in Vegas? Looked in the Customize KB and Ctrl+C aint there either.

No, Bob, there is a tempting underlined "C" in the dropdown menu - must BE for summit! can you at least see that? Bob?

Actually Windoze conventions use the under line letter to be used in combos of KB stroke - at least I've learnt this much, but here in Vegas the UNDERLINE of the "E", eg, Edit, isn't shown - but you can still hit ALt+E to get to it.

TorS wrote on 9/18/2006, 5:19 AM

Frazie,
True, BUT you must first select/highlight the dropdown list (which you did by rightclicking in the trimmer window). If there is a way to select that list with the keyboard, no matter where in Vegas your highlight was to begin with, I do not know what it is. But once the dialogue is open and selected, C alone will get you the copy result.

You get to the trimmer window by Alt+2, but I fail to see how you get the dropdown via the keyboard.
Tor

ibliss wrote on 9/18/2006, 5:47 AM

The underline letters in right-click menus are shortcut keys, but they only apply when the menu is open, and have nothing to do with the normal Ctrl+whateverkey shortcuts.

eg. In windows explorer, right click on a file/ folder and hit "R" on your keyboard - the file properties are shown.

In vegas, right-click on an event and hit "P" - the properties are shown.

Right-click on and event and hit "H" then "N" - this will toggle Normalize on the event. The first key hit "H" was the menu shortcut to "Switches", and the second key hit was the short cut for "Normalize" in the switches sub-menu.

If you can retain some of these shortcuts in your head it can really speed things up. In the example above it is way faster to go right-click>H>N than it is to right click, move the mouse down to switches, wait for the submenu to open, move the mouse to and select Normalize.

This technique can speed up regular menu selection.
eg Alt>O>M in Vegas secects the menu, opens Options and chooses Mute All Audio.

Hope this helps

farss wrote on 9/18/2006, 6:09 AM

You're right and at clients insistance I've coded these things but I really fail to see how it's any faster working this way?

I typically have me left paw on the shuttle and the right on the mouse, anything that makes me go back to the keyboard seems counter productive. Now what'd be good (maybe) is one of them mice with lots of buttons. I seem to recall them being used with CAD applications, or maybe the were very fancy tablet pucks?

bStro wrote on 9/18/2006, 7:55 AM

You get to the trimmer window by Alt+2, but I fail to see how you get the dropdown via the keyboard.

He could be using a laptop.

Whether he is or not, Grazie's right. If they're going to underline the C in Copy, then hitting "C" should activate it. Odd thing is, I guess depending on what language in which Vegas is written, the programmer usually doesn't have to do anything to make that happen. The method used to make a letter into a shortcut is what uderlines it.

For the record, I'm in Vegas 6, and it works properly. I'm not sure what advantage this has over just hitting "A" without even bringing up the context menu. I suppose you might want to copy the selection for some other reason, but I don't know what.

Rob

Tattoo wrote on 9/18/2006, 8:15 AM

Maybe I'm missing the boat here, but Ctrl-C & P work just normal for me. I'm using V5 on a laptop at the moment, but here's what I just validated (this is not my normal workflow, just curious):

- highlight a section of footage in the Trimmer
- hit Ctrl-C
- select a video track by clicking on the track
- hit Ctrl-P
= copied selection ends up where the cursor was on the track I selected

No menus pre-opened or anything weird. Confirm you haven't accidentally re-assigned the Ctrl-C or P keys to something else?

Brian

bStro wrote on 9/18/2006, 8:21 AM

He's not talking about Ctrl+C.

Go to the trimmer and make a selection. Right-click inside that selection, and you will get a context menu. Near the top off that menu is Copy. (First item if your mouse was over a video track, second if it was over an audio track.)

With that context menu open, pressing "C" on your keyboard should copy your selection to the clipboard.

In my Vegas 6, it does. In the Vegas 7 Grazie is using (right?), it does not.

Rob

Grazie wrote on 9/18/2006, 8:55 AM

Yes Rob I do have V7 . .

Rob and those that pointed out the errors of my ways to me now -I have to have the MENU open. I just can't HIGHLIGHT a LOOP and HIT "C" and expect COPY to have taken place.

My thinking was that "EDIT" doesn't have an underline under the "E" - but that I can call it up by using ALT+E ! And in my "logic" why can't I just use C in trimmer and expect to have copy available? Well, I was being a dufus. Now, there SHOULD be a non-Menu-required COPY command for this. Well I think so. But there again that's what "A" and "Shift+A" are meant for.

Thanks everybody.

Grazie wrote on 9/18/2006, 9:03 AM

OK, CTRL+C works . .. but sorry lads .. CTRL+P doesn't paste onto the chosen track.

And for Brian, here's weird . .

CTRL+C isn't registering in Keyboard options - but it works

CTRL+P also isn't registering in Keyboard options - but that doesn't work.

pjrey wrote on 9/18/2006, 9:24 AM

CTRL +C is copy... CTRL + V is paste..
Z, undo, X cut etc.....

pj

bStro wrote on 9/18/2006, 9:54 AM

I just can't HIGHLIGHT a LOOP and HIT "C" and expect COPY to have taken place.

Whoops, my bad. I didn't even realize you were even trying to do that. Silly Grazie. ;-)

As for CTRL+C and CTRL+V (not CTRL+P -- that's for printing), they're not in the keyboard options thingie 'cause they're standard Windows shortcuts. I'm not sure Vegas would let you remap them. You could try, but I like 'em the way they are, and it would get confusing 'cause I don't think their menu labels would change.

Rob

TorS wrote on 9/18/2006, 2:57 PM

What you CAN do though, Grazie (Sorry I called you Frazie, that should have been Phrazie) is to click-drag-drop things from the trimmer to the timeline. If you rightclick first, you can select to choose just audio, just video or both (the default). You probably knew all that, I am putting it in for the readers who did not.

Personally I like keyboard shortcuts. When I have to select a menu with the mouse first, I like it less, because then I might as well finish the task using the mouse. Sony software (I own a lot of them) has a lot of menus where you are offered a keyboard shortcut but only after you have selected it be mouse.

Tor

Grazie wrote on 9/18/2006, 3:02 PM

What you CAN do though, Grazie (Sorry I called you Frazie, that should have been Phrazie) is to click-drag-drop things from the trimmer to the timeline.

Yup, that's how I pull together all my work.

Tim L wrote on 9/18/2006, 4:21 PM

Regarding having to activate menues with a right-click:

Don't forget the "menu" button on the keyboard. I don't know the real name for it, but it is just to the left of the right-side CTRL key, and has a legend that looks like a menu drop-down box.

In most cases, it seems to be nearly the same as right-clicking, but not exactly the same. Still, for people who prefer keyboard activations, it may save you from having to reach for the mouse just to open a menu.

TorS wrote on 9/18/2006, 11:29 PM

Like Dahl's policeman said, eating up the murder weapon "it's probably right under our noses".

Indeed Tim,
If there is a selection in Trimmer, cliking the menu button will reveal the rightclick dropdown, high C enabled. If I'm in another window, Alt+2 will get me to the trimmer.

The menu button is on my keyboard for sure. I can see it, I can feel it. But I assure you, all of you, I have never seen it before!
Tor

Jonathan Neal wrote on 9/19/2006, 12:01 AM

Somebody should post all the shortcut keystrokes known in Vegas. Someone wanna copy it over or write it out?

TorS wrote on 9/19/2006, 12:53 AM

Yeah, and post the layout of my keyboard, too.

Tor

Jonathan Neal wrote on 9/19/2006, 12:54 AM

I'm serious. I've got another idea for a program that might be helpful for all of us. Kind of a trainer slash programmer app.

Sol M. wrote on 9/19/2006, 3:34 AM

Somebody should post all the shortcut keystrokes known in Vegas. Someone wanna copy it over or write it out?

Why not just get them from Help>Keyboard Shortcuts?

Jonathan Neal wrote on 9/19/2006, 3:36 AM

Thanks Jive, I'll start working on the program later tonight. I've got a sql-less torrent client to finish.

Grazie wrote on 9/19/2006, 5:18 AM

Well, good to see something positive has come out of my faux pas! LOL!