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B_JM wrote on 2/8/2005, 9:20 AM
frame serve it out of vegas to nero recode 2
williamconifer wrote on 2/8/2005, 9:23 AM
*slaps forehead*

Thanks!
jack
scdragracing wrote on 2/8/2005, 10:51 AM
you may be able to encode h.264, but how will you play it back? have you been able to get the the nero player to work on your system? it's been real buggy for me.
Spot|DSE wrote on 2/8/2005, 11:19 AM
Nero player working great over here...On 5-6 systems. But Windows Media Player can play it back too.
p@mast3rs wrote on 2/8/2005, 4:12 PM
While different work flows work for different people, I render using Sony's YUV codec and then feed that into Recode and get a flawless encode everytime.
williamconifer wrote on 2/9/2005, 5:08 AM
RE: Recode/H.264 avc - What bitrate are you able to get away with. I ran one clip at 12mps and on playback my beefy workstation started to choke. I was figuring around 6-7mps for 720p hd avc.

jack
B_JM wrote on 2/9/2005, 5:21 AM
8 mps will work fine for 720p , though i see some small blocking at this bit rate when i blow it up real big (and seen even on smaller screens) .. 12mps really should play back fine though for you (i have no problems with 10 on a 2.66 P4, even off a dvd disk)

264 will play back using the 3ivx and ffdshow and pretty well any mpeg4 decoder .. many report the 3ivx decoder looks the best - I didnt check to see which one im using in gspot or graphedit ... spot may have the latest command line version only or private beta build , as the latest feb. release recode 2 doesnt yet have complete HD profiles (not withstanding what it reports) , but will (i understand ) shortly ..
williamconifer wrote on 2/9/2005, 5:52 AM
Do you run with the default settings in Recode or do you tweaked it out?

Thanks a bunch btw, I have been mining the Doom9 site but they seem to be more interested in ripping/copying DVDs in SD than what we are doing with HDV.

Thanks again.
jack
B_JM wrote on 2/9/2005, 6:05 AM
i tweak it
williamconifer wrote on 2/9/2005, 6:14 AM
could you share the settings you use?

Thanks
jack
B_JM wrote on 2/9/2005, 6:48 AM
not a lot of settings to change really ... i use maximum definition, change gop to 120 for fast moving and 300 for slow (its autoselection anyway) , 2 pass always , autosharp (smooth seems to smooth to much) , 512 or the next one down for vectors (i dont see much diff.) .. AHEAD has locked most everything else ... just select the max. settings for everything .. maximum definition produces better results (for me anyway) than HDTV .. i dont crop or resize anything in nero , but before .. though nero resizing seems very good ....

i checked and am using the nero decoder - it seems as if the nero and 3ivx are the only ones for AVC nero right now - i though ffdshow would handle it , but doesnt ...



williamconifer wrote on 2/9/2005, 7:06 AM
>> i checked and am using the nero decoder - it seems as if the nero and 3ivx are the only ones for AVC nero >> right now - i though ffdshow woudl handle it , but doesnt ...

I thought WMP will play a Nero AVC HD file. In my tests WMP will play it though I'm having problem with no audio when I play. If I "grab" the chicklette while playing and pull it back to start and let go the audio plays just fine. I need to see if it's a prob. between WMP and my audio card/driver.

So far my work with WMV9HD has been with out a hitch.

Thanks for all the info.

jack
B_JM wrote on 2/9/2005, 7:17 AM
wmp will play it i suppose (i dont use wmp ever and removed it from most of my systems, most awful thing) -- i am just saying the codec it is using is nero's own ..

prairiedogpics wrote on 2/9/2005, 8:13 AM
My test files play fine in Nero ShowTime, but when I try to play them in Media Player Classic (6.4.8.2) I get the following error (which has to do with the audio codec in the AVC files - MPC won't play the audio, but plays the video just fine):


Media Player could not render some of the pins in the graph, you may not have the needed filters or codecs installed on the system (THOUGH THIS IS THE SAME SYSTEM THAT WILL PLAY THE FILES THROUGH NERO SHOWTIME)
Stream 1

Media Type 0:
--------------------------
AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Audio {73647561-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: Unknown GUID Name {4134504D-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_WaveFormatEx {05589F81-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 0
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 0
cbFormat: 23

WAVEFORMATEX:
wFormatTag: 0x0000
nChannels: 2
nSamplesPerSec: 24000
nAvgBytesPerSec: 0
nBlockAlign: 0
wBitsPerSample: 0
cbSize: 5 (extra bytes)

Any ideas on how to get Media Player Classic (not WMP) to play the file correctly?

BTW, QuickTime will play the file just fine, too.

Dan