What really is the nomenclature for an event?

solarblast1 wrote on 3/31/2011, 5:50 AM
What really is an event, and it's various components? Suppose I have an audio and video track with 10 seconds devoted to a speech, and the next 15 seconds for a dog barking, and between the two is a gap of say 2 seconds. Those are two events, right? For event one, do we talk about the audio and video as two sub-events? Maybe they are the audio and video events? Suppose on a third track of the speech, I place a transparent image that gets imposed on the video track above it. What's this segment called? A transparent event? Is an event determined by a group?

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TheHappyFriar wrote on 3/31/2011, 7:03 AM
An event is anything that's on the TL. A video with audio attached is two events. It's one piece of media.
Richard Jones wrote on 3/31/2011, 8:12 AM
Think of an event as a singleand independent clip or scene. You apply your FXs etc to an event.

Richard
PeterWright wrote on 3/31/2011, 8:39 AM
Richard, you CAN indeed apply FX to an Event, but that doesn't define what an event is, as you can also apply FX at 3 other places - Project Media, Track Header and Final Output.

As Happy Friar said, the thing that makes something an Event in Vegas' language is simply that it is an item on the Timeline.
Marco. wrote on 3/31/2011, 8:55 AM
Yes, an item or a wrapper on the timeline which may - or may not - include a certain kind of media content and which also may include several media at the same time (each single piece of media is called "take" then).
Richard Jones wrote on 4/1/2011, 2:32 AM
Peter's quite right, of course. In my effort to make it easier to understand I over-simplified, I'm afraid. Still, the first part of my answer holds good.

The Interactive Help file (Overview of Timeline: Step 1) in Vegas 10c reads as follows:-

"When an audio, video or still image or file is placed on the Timeline it is referred to as an event. The Timeline lets you precisely control the length and placement of events in your movie."

This definition sort of herlps, especially when read in conjunction with the other posts made here.

Richard



arenel wrote on 4/3/2011, 10:18 AM
Why event not clip?
Ralph
Former user wrote on 4/3/2011, 10:59 AM
Ralph,

My guess would be that "clip" indicates part of something, whereas an event could be the whole video (say a 1hour one camera shoot) , clip indicates just part of that video.

Dave T2
Marco. wrote on 4/3/2011, 11:16 AM
"Clip" usually means the media file or the reference to the media file and may mean both video and audio.

But the timeline event is just a placeholder.

An event may contain either video or audio or grafic (in Vegas one event never contains both video and audio).
An event even may contain nothing (no media at all) thus it's an "empty event".
An event may contain one clip (video or audio) or an event may contain many different clips (as "takes").
An event may contain only a part of a clip (dependend on which lenght you define for the event).
TheHappyFriar wrote on 4/3/2011, 1:03 PM
From the Vegas 10 manual: event
"An event is an occurrence of a media file on the timeline."

From Merriam-Webster: clip
"a : to cut or cut off with or as if with shears <clip a dog's hair> <clip an hour off traveling time> "
Tim L wrote on 4/3/2011, 1:58 PM
I answered a similar question on the VMS forum a while back (about why it's called an "event").

While "event" might seem like an unusual term for it, it makes perfect sense if you step back for a moment and forget about the term "timeline" in the video editing sense, and think of the much more general meaning of the word "timeline" (as non-editors would think of it). For example, picture it as a historical timeline where "events" in history are marked (this happened at this date and time...).

Better yet, think of a "timeline" in the general sense as a schedule -- where you note what should happen and when: from time = x to time = y this video (or audio, or this title) should occur. In this analogy, it seems very reasonable to use the term "event" for anything that gets entered onto a timeline. ("Let me check my calendar of events...")

So you may think you are editing video, but really you are simply creating a schedule of a succession of video and audio events.

KenJ62 wrote on 4/3/2011, 4:55 PM
I guess this definition works, but...... to me, an event is what I attend in order to shoot my clips!
TheHappyFriar wrote on 4/3/2011, 5:51 PM
I guess this definition works, but...... to me, an event is what I attend in order to shoot my clips!

MW's got you covered on that one too:
Event: "something that happens"

Both taken care of on one foul swoop! :D

People tend to define things based on their experiences, not on the definition of the term. IE tonight @ church the word "translate" came up. The initial thought is changing from one language to another. Mathematically it means move. In the term it was used, it meant move but nobody things of it that way any more even if it is a proper definition.
Steve Mann wrote on 4/3/2011, 7:09 PM
Remember the history of Vegas. When Vegas 1.0 hit the ground, it was an audio editing program. (It wasn't until 3.0, if I recall, that Video was added.) So in audio editing you have drum events, bass events, etc. Since the programmers realized that video was just another file and could be edited just like audio files, it made sense to continue to call "anything on the timeline" is an event.

Vegas is quite consistent. When referring to the actual media, Vegas does use the term "clips". But, everything on the timeline is simply a pointer to the media, not the media itself, and appropriately called an event.

(I come from a programming background, so "events" makes a lot of sense to me.)

Steve