Where have my Captured Clips Gone

ThomW wrote on 10/25/2006, 12:17 AM
I'm still new at this. But is beginning to capture actually openning up a different program like if you we're to open up Architect? When I'm in my current work flow project I've noticed that my captured clips don't automatically go to my bin that I'm working in. I hadn't paid much attention to it until now when my frustration of trying to locate where my clips are that I noticed that there is a tool bar with FILE,EDIT,VIEW... and so forth. I didn't reallize that every time I wanted to capture from my camera that I had to look and see which project this stuff is getting loaded into. This might explain why there is stuff lingering around after I've deleted them from the project. "It's still hanging in the capture part of the program- Nothing more then a tombstone because to actual content has left the building." I've talked about it before but I'm lost on how Vegas filing system works. Just when I'm trying to get a little organized. I can't move files around because it is being used is some other operation or when I open up a project it seems to wants to undo all my organizing because it has to search out all my files.
I really need to take a class on Vegas.
Hope this is helpful to someone else besides just a place where I can vent. Something tells me that V7 hasn't gotten any better.

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Grazie wrote on 10/25/2006, 12:28 AM
I'm really trying to reconcile your 2 statements? A really difficult concept for me?

" Something tells me that V7 hasn't gotten any better.

"I really need to take a class on Vegas."

How can you say something hasn't got better if you are also saying you need to take lessons?

Best regards,

Graham "Grazie" Bernard
Vegas User since Vegas3
* Owns Spots Book

Serena wrote on 10/25/2006, 1:49 AM
>>>Something tells me that V7 hasn't gotten any better

I think you're right -- still fails to read the user's mind or correct things that the user did but didn't mean to do. Rather a nuisance really.
farss wrote on 10/25/2006, 2:32 AM
Well to be honest I can understand Thom's source of chaos and confusion.
Logically one would think if I was working in project A and I decided to capture something where it went would by default have some correlation to project A. Well Thom no, it doesn't. Welcome to vegas!

If you're capturing DV using the external VidCap program your captured video ends up where you told VidCap to capture it to!

In VidCap look under Options>Preferences>Disk Management

And by default from memory that's set up to some folder in My Documents which would probably be the last place you'd want to be capturing video to.

Bob.
dand9959 wrote on 10/25/2006, 8:26 AM
I've requested they change this behavior at least 3 times (via the Product Suggestion mechanism, the forums, even straight e-mail.)

PLEASE change vidcap so that you can specify a capture destination directory that is associated with the current project!!!

Apparently these suggestions are simply ignored or, for some unfathomable reason, the code design is such that a simple change like this is incredibly difficult to implement.
rs170a wrote on 10/25/2006, 8:46 AM
Join the crowd :-(
What's the point of being able to save a vidcap specific to a project if it doesn't remember where it's supposed to put the d**n files? ! ! !
I've been asking for an improvement since Vegas 4.
When you're working with as many as 20 different groups of students editing their projects on one computer (plus my own projects), it's WAY too easy for someone to forget to change the capture folder destination. And it takes a while to sort through who's files are supposed to be where.

Mike
Serena wrote on 10/25/2006, 4:01 PM
These are all good points. My own observation is that computer software isn't particularly intelligent and usually repeats whatever you last told it to do. So you set up where you want stuff to be written and where data is held and any particular program will keep doing that until you tell it to change. If you never specify anywhere in particular, the software will use default locations. To me this is an essential lesson for using computers. Students, one might think, would want all their Vegas input/output files (including bak, temp, veg, clips, renders) in their own directory and setting this up would be part of the discipline.
Grazie wrote on 10/25/2006, 10:09 PM
Serena I agree. I would also like you to see how PATHS and FOLDERS are handled within ACID Pro. There you have a menu that you can specify where many of the files you want for a specific project are stored. Now, of course, you can return to this HEADLINE Folder/Path menu and change it.

What this means is that our Associates in Madison have the awareness of what we want - it happens in ACID - so and as, what appears to me, ACID and Vegas keep getting closer and closer I'm hoping that this Folder and File management option will carry over too.

We have touched on this before. We will repeat this again. A discussion about Folder and File Management

MH_Stevens wrote on 10/26/2006, 5:06 AM
Once you capture files and tell Vegas where they are, by importing them into a project, or by capturing directly from within Vegas, do not move them. If you need move them to make space on your editing HDD, such as saving them to external media after editing, then consider "Save with clipped media". Note that the Vegas media bins are virtual; only the Vegas explorer is physical.

What I do is to capture as needed to a single directory, edit those clips and then save them using "Save with clipped media" with longish tails and headers for minor fade/cut edits, to another location, and then I delete the imported media to make room for the next batch of imports. Do keep your original tapes in case you screw up or have a disc go down.

Michael