Who is using Vegas to record albums in a professional studio capacity?

PipelineAudio wrote on 1/18/2003, 1:13 PM
It seems there are a wide variety of different types of users here. Who in here is using this app as a primary recording device, in a "take all comers", commercially operated recording studio? I am talking at LEAST 16 ins and outs into vegas. Maybe we could stand together once we know who we are, and make consistent, clear, and unified points, so that the next vegas revision would serve our needs as well.

Please add your name here if this is you

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Arnar wrote on 1/18/2003, 1:23 PM
I am .
PipelineAudio wrote on 1/18/2003, 1:29 PM
I was counting on you :)
And geoff and Ramallo too I think and Of course JoeD
stakeoutstudios wrote on 1/18/2003, 1:43 PM
don't forget me :o)
Cold wrote on 1/18/2003, 3:15 PM
I am as well.
Geoff_Wood wrote on 1/18/2003, 5:25 PM
Yep me too, if you include the 8 DA-88 inputs which I could use via my MOTU 2408/2, but never have. 'Commercially' but in a small way - paying customers, but not stars.

Also editing and compilation (dare I say 're-mastering' ?) of full commercial CD releases for record companies , but that only takes 2 tracks !

g.
Jacose wrote on 1/18/2003, 6:23 PM
Me too :)
Foreverain4 wrote on 1/18/2003, 7:14 PM
i guess i would be more a semi pro studio.... but i am using vegas and i love it!




lynn
Dide wrote on 1/18/2003, 7:20 PM
Me also, with my motu's 2408MkII.

Dide
CDM wrote on 1/20/2003, 9:51 AM
I'm not using it to record so much as to Mix and Edit.
wazer wrote on 1/20/2003, 10:56 AM
Hi guys! My name is wazer!.

I'm new at the forum.

I recently working as composer and remixer for years in HUNGARY. I use ONLY VEGAS to edit multitrack audio. I have RME Hammerfall DSP w/ Multiface i/o box.
I use tis system with 10 input and 14 output (via external effect processors and SPDIF)

You can check some music from our band called DRAFT if you find the album (title : Dombok Felett)somewhere. It was released by Warner Music Hungary in 2002. Trance, breakbeat, some chill with female vocals.

I love this setup, i just wanna add a few handful things into the VEGAS software.
What about a new topic called "wishlist"? :)

w!

sorry for my broken english..

and one more thing ... I just WANNA BE a professional. But i'm learning and finding out new tricks day-by-day.. :)

Sari wrote on 1/20/2003, 12:52 PM
In 1999 we had the biggest Pro Tools setup around the city.

Since January 2000 we have been recording, editing and mixing with Vegas. We produce records (7 in 2002), music for TV (12 TV Themes and many many many ads in 2002)as well as music for film (4 in 2002). Only Vegas we use. When we need MIDI we synch (beautifuly) to Sonar which is on another computer.

Mind you our setup is very audio configured and tuned.

No need to say we have since sold our mega ProTools setup. The guy who bought it is looking for a buyer since he switched to Vegas this year.

Cheers.
wazer wrote on 1/21/2003, 8:01 AM
Sari!

Seems the same, we did. He had Pro Tools MIX plus w/882 i/o for 2 years.
We liked the PT, but the work was so slow with.. We sold it and come back to Vegas.

We have Analog Outboards/Mixer instead of Pro Tools. We really don't miss the PT.

Vegas IS MUSCH BETTER IN EDITING.
Analog gears sound much better, than the plugs....

w!
imac wrote on 1/21/2003, 4:47 PM
I have been full time commercial for 8 years, starting with 4 ADATS, which I still have.
I regularly record 32 simultaneous inputs from 2 Apogee AD16's into Vegas. Recently I have begun mixing entirely within Vegas (except for hardware reverbs) in preference to digital desks I have previously been using.
I have always been testing and evaluating other systems, so I am familiar with what other systems are good and bad at.....

Other engineers will say, "So when are you buying Pro Tools?".
Vegas is no feature in this studio as far as impressions go, it is merely a tool that is my preference. I use Vegas because of the many advantages I see over Pro Tools, but this doesn't change peoples perception of it being necessarily inferior because it isn't PT.

The numbers of users on this thread is not representing any great user base that can cause any influence to Vegas development....we will continue to choose to use this app. with whatever audio features the video guys are requesting....
PipelineAudio wrote on 1/21/2003, 6:01 PM
Id like to hope we can have more say than that
imac wrote on 1/21/2003, 6:32 PM
All 12 of us?
imac wrote on 1/21/2003, 6:37 PM
Sorry, it's just my cynical humour...I'm not at all bitter and twisted like some...
Users need to accept what this product is, and buy it for what it is now. It is not realistic to buy software on the basis of personal expectations of future development.
I am a happy user, but I am always ready to drop Vegas in a flash if something better would work for me. And even then I would still use Vegas for some tasks and would expect future developments to turn the tables again..
PipelineAudio wrote on 1/21/2003, 6:40 PM
we Dirty Dozen need to make some noise then
Ben  wrote on 1/21/2003, 6:49 PM
Well, I doubt very much if this is really it!!! Also, bear in mind that Pipe asked for people to post who do serious multitrack music recording with Vegas. There's a lot of audio pros using Vegas, but they're just not doing 16+ in/out multitrack recording. I'm one of them. I do audio imaging for TV and radio in the UK. Obviously this is post work, so it's pretty rare that more than a stereo pair goes in at a time.

So for all you know there could be a massive pro audio-only user base, but most of them aren't doing that sort of recording.

Ben
Rednroll wrote on 1/22/2003, 10:10 AM
Imac said:
"Sorry, it's just my cynical humour...I'm not at all bitter and twisted like some...
Users need to accept what this product is, and buy it for what it is now. It is not realistic to buy software on the basis of personal expectations of future development.
I am a happy user, but I am always ready to drop Vegas in a flash if something better would work for me. And even then I would still use Vegas for some tasks and would expect future developments to turn the tables again.."

Exactly Imac!!! That's what I've been saying for years. I have always used the analogy: " I don't buy a screw driver when the tool I really need is a hammer, and then go scream at the company I bought the screw driver from because I can't pound in nails, although if I try hard enough I just might be able to accomplish that." Pipeline's always in here with his posts, "I need ASIO", "I need on the fly punch-INs tape style..(insert more whinning here)."I need Vegas to output audio smpte".."I need midi track support."....."I can't work efficiently without these tools"..."I guess I'll be going to cubendo because they have all these features."

I've given him work arounds for all these lacking features, just so he can use the screw driver to pound in the nails.....yet his reply always is: "but that's not the way I want to do things....insert more whinning."

I bought this app, because it's user interface is outstanding, and it records audio the way I like to work and it had the most powerful editing features....and yes, before I tried Vegas, I tried EVERY audio app out there before I made my choice, and I still keep my eye on the other choices. Those are the primary key features I need from an app...anything on top of that is nice and becomes an enhancement of what I already have....and yes I use Vegas in a professional environment. For 3 years I owned my own business property owned recording studio, making a living using Vegas, Sound Forge, and Acid. Prior to that I worked in other's studios doing music and advertising production as an engineer for 8 years. Now, I've built my own recording studio in my house and don't have to rely on the money to make a living and that let's me enjoy doing this so much more...and yes, people come to me and pay me for my work....but now I have the luxary of choosing "Who" and "When" I want to work on a project.

Even the guys from Sonic Foundry ask him, "If you need these other features, that these other programs offer to work, then why don't you buy that other program?" That would be too easy and I think the guy isn't all that bright to figure it out. Now he's trying to get a lynch mob together and try and force Sonic Foundry to add the features, that he thinks he needs. What a joke!!!

PipelineAudio wrote on 1/22/2003, 10:18 AM
you were specifically the type I was trying to avoid with this thread. Your workarounds DO work, but not in a way that will attract more pro users, who have been put off for a long time by some of vegas' lackings. They also dont work in a lot of situations. If you are going to call something " multitrack" there is in reality no way around auto input. You can kick and scream till the cows come home, but thats just the way it is. When I first saw vegas, I saw that it had the potential to be the ultimate recording mixing and editing app, EXACTLY what it claimed to be on the box. Now we are only a short distance away. And again, being that you dont record albums for a living, this isnt really about you.
Rednroll wrote on 1/22/2003, 11:39 AM
"And again, being that you dont record albums for a living, this isnt really about you."

Yes, I don't record albums for a living...anymore...and that's by choice, but yes I do record albums. And since I get PAID for that work, that would classify me as a "professional". I do use Vegas, for many other applications that I DO make a living from. Many are well above your comprehension level. Or maybe, you can tell me something about how to use and tune a "Petroff filter" to develope a superior stereo image within a listening environment using Vegas? There's similar people like me. Also, Vegas has a user base of around 20,000+. There's 12 people that said they use it on a professional level in this post....half of that for JUST music recording. I agree, if Vegas had the features you're always complaining about, then YES....it might attract more Pro users. But since it's not I'll have to assume that those users are more intelligent than you and decide to purchase something that fits their needs like Protools, Sonar, Nuendo or Cubase, instead of buying something that doesn't and hoping it will change and not getting work done in the mean time. So maybe you're right, "This post is NOT about me", thus why I haven't responded to it until now. This post IS ALL about "YOU". Now where's that put the other 19,999 users? I would guess they would be lumped in with me, where they've used it for doing Audio post work for video, Radio and TV commercial production, Video game SFX designing, Video editing, Mastering, Live recording, Audio recording for system analysis, audio restoration, CD duplication. I've used Vegas for most of those needs and YES gotten paid for them. So where's that put me in the 20,000+ user base....way above you in experience because you use it for JUST recording music.
PipelineAudio wrote on 1/23/2003, 10:43 AM
practice what you preach