Sorry it is kinda late eyes gettin sleepy just thought I would ask a few questions on how people like the program. Good to hear you are so happy I am used to seeing posts in the other programs forums the one you call "P" with people being frustrated. Please keep the comments comming though from anyone wishing to contribute their time and comments.

I love it. I bought and use a variety of programs depending on the complexity of my project. However, I usually find I may render some segments in other program (because of transitions that VV does not have) I do the final assembly and edit in Vegas. Ulead Video Studio is fine for quick & dirty projects and has far more transitions than Vegas so I often use it to render segments and them bring them into Vegas for the complex projects.

It is nice to be able to play a loop and change the transitions and effects in the loop while previewing in real time.

In one segment, I only had 1 second of good video. I used Vegas to re-render it for 4 seconds. What PERFECT re-rendering in slow motion! Flawless! So smooth!

Probably most improtant is that I find the rendering to be excellent. The final projects are so good that my friends do not believe I did it myself. Things are just too clean and perfect to be a "home" project.

I need to download the demo I guess and check it out, but I like to hear from people who own it and use it alot. Gotta try it out for sure!

You've seen the reviews and the forum. You have searched but could not find anything substantially negative being said about Vegas. How much more do you want? A free plug-in pack normally selling for $ 140? You've got it (for a limited time).

Tor

I used mainly Premiere from version 4.2 until a year ago when I discovered Vegas.
For work flow, speed of putting something together, well thought out and positioned
features, reliability (I've not yet had a crash or lock-up), silky smooth operation and FUN to use, Vegas simply leaves all others in the dust. (I've also used the much touted Final Cut Pro on that "other" platform, and it is SO overrated!)

Real time EDITING is where it's at - and Vegas delivers. The reason you haven't found complaints about it will become evident when you start using it.

Peter

Dratme used the key word: FUN. I started off with Premiere, now its Vegas all the way. I work with audio programs like Sonar, 3D apps like Poser/Bryce, MS office programs, etc. All of these have their pluses and minuses, but I seem to spend a fair amount of time "fighting" their interfaces, working around quirks, little instabilities, (par for the course with computer software, I know), having to recheck the manual all time, etc.

But when its time to work on a video project.. I just can't wait to click that Vegas icon. I've never worked with any app that presents fewer obstacles to getting your "hands" around a project and lettin it rip. Its like a glove that fits my hand perfectly or something.

I'll stop gushing now. Pick up VV 3 while that plug-in deal is on. Get the cool new free plugsin in from debugmode.com. Enjoy.

G

Guys/Gals, the better way to demonstrate shogo what he needs is: no more positive appraisals of VV in this thread. Only NEGATIVE.
Either the thread dies right here :-) or we will have some (few) negative appraisals. If the negativers build up to 5, then the positivers may come again for the rescue.

I think this will give shogo a much better picture ...

Well, end of this thread, I suspect ...

No keep it going I might have to show this to my boss who is a "P" freak and would love to show him all the comments on this app. He recently UPGRADED to "P" 6.5 thinking as it said on the box "real time previews" he was sadly disappointed to say the least.

If you have Premiere with AfterEffects (like I do) you'll find that Vegas Video real advantage is in audio only (both P and AE are badly missing this). But in terms of media management Vegas Video is not even close. Premiere interface is clumsy sometimes but an interesting part is anytime I'm thinking that I need some quick way of doing something, it has it. Sometimes hidden in some shortcut. But there nonetheless. Nothing comes even close to trim mode window in Premiere for prcise cuts.
If you don't have AE then Vegas Video also has compositing capabilities which are a big advantage over Premiere.
I'm using Premiere 6.5 - much better than 6.0 and very stable. At least on my hardware. Has real-time preview, although not as smooth as Vegas Video.
Honestly, neither program is a winner. And I'm glad I can use both combining their power.
Also, it's true that Vegas Video is extremely reliable.
With nice plugins from Satish it's getting better and better. One day it might be absolutely better than Premiere. But not at this moment.

Looking forward to Vegas Video 4.

Alexei

I've used VV for a number of complete CD projects and am impressed with its abilities as a multitracker (with Acid and SoundForge for additional editing). But where I have really enjoyed it is for video editing. I've used it to produce numerous films for class and always find the interface simple and clean. I've never used P but my brother is always using it and complains incessantly while I just finish projects.
Great time to buy now with the plug in pack... I use stuff by pixelan and effects in VV but would like that plug in. Check out the free stuff that Satish put out.

one thing I couldn't deal with is not being able to multiple instances of Premiere. with Vegas you can open as many projects as you want at the same time. audio support in Premiere is pathetic. the stupid things I used to have to do to edit out a glitch... which leads to a real important advantage of using Vegas. speed of production.

long time premiere user (because I had to). switched as soon as I discovered VV2 and never looked back. okay I still check out the new Premiere releases as they come out but there isn't anything worth going back to. there are a few things it has that I wish Vegas had though:

- export to image sequence (img001.tga, img002.tga, etc)
- ability to store 'clips' in the media pool
- Adobe PS font support

if I think of more I'll add them but overall VV is 100 times more useful to me than Premiere. it's far more than just an NLE and for less than half the price.

shogo-- Welcome to the family, hopefully!

In all seriousness, I haven't found too many complaints with Vegas (and I'm still using Vegas 2!) whatsoever. I've used Premeire 5 in the past extensively (if THAT says anything... I haven't upgraded Premeire since using Vegas), and I've got Avid Xpress DV 3.0 that I never touch. Why? Vegas IS that much easier. Vegas IS that powerful I do suggest that you download the demo and take a look at it. A good, hard look. Everyone sells the audio features, and they're right... it kicks the hell out of whatever else you can probably afford.

Now, some people don't like the lack of bins (I don't find that particularly cumbersome), but that's not my complaint. My ONLY problem with Vegas is the plug in support, which of course isn't SoFo's fault... but I would DIE for some of the Adobe plug ins in Vegas. I'd die to be able to open After Effects within Vegas. Etc.

But that's the trade off. And for my money-- Vegas is the ONLY way to go.

David.

What really ticks me off with VV3 is that I get so absorbed into my editing projects that I wind up going to bed after midnight. Then the next day I am in a haze until that second cup of coffee. Sometimes I have bags under my eyes. The blame lies squarely with VV3.

Thats like asking who is happy with their mistress?

Well I am happy with my mistress (Vegas). She also keeps me up all night. When I put VV against the P or against a Media 100, I am very glad to be VV. Workflow is my number one reason. I don't have spare time. I need at least one hour of sleep. I have never missed bins. I havn't worked on projects with more than 7 hours of raw footage though. I organize the material during capture and all is well.

Having a compositing tool and a solid audio tool combined means I can work straight through without popping out to other things all of the time. When I do pop out it is to do a specialized function that is best done by a special tool. Being able to view on the external monitor and realtime previews are helpful Only products of the Digisuite price range can match the working environment.

VV is a good mistress and I always know that she is ready when I am. (it doesn't crash!)

K

--Thats like asking who is happy with their mistress?

Well put!
(although some of us are still newly married & really, really happy... :)

David.

Give it time---LOL---Just kidding!

I'm relatively new to Vegas having spent the last 7 years with FAST Video Machine, a real-time AB-roll NLE with some abilities with regards to rendering. Frankly, it took a little while for me to get my head into the Vegas paradigm (I have owned Premier since 1.0 and upgraded faithfully), and I must confess up front that Vegas has won me over. I have recently completed a 2-hour project on it and have used it to create the mpeg2 files needed to author the project in Sonic's ReelDVD. I've also used it to create the trailers for the program - the curious can take a peek at;

http://www.modelsport.com/press/ms0503.htm

I find it a pretty capable tool . . . and while I could find something to bitch and moan about, that's true of every NLE I've ever tried! Overall, I prefer Vegas over the combination of Premier and AE - of course, it's a slam-dunk if it's compared just to Premier. Incredibly enough, few professionals seem to know about it.

For what it's worth, there's a functional 30-day download available (no charge), which combined with the handful of tutorials easily available, should present you with suficient information to permit a purchase decision. I believe all that's missing from it is the ability to render to .mpeg which certainly won't keep you from evaluating the software.

While I think VV3 is a no brainer, SoFo is making it easier yet. They're currently making a special offer whereby when you make the VV3 purchase, you get some nifty plug-ins for free. This incentive makes a decent deal into an outstanding deal! Hence, I would recommend you just jump in and buy it now because not only will you love the program (and especially the workflow) when compared to Premier, but waiting means you risk the few hundred bucks the free plug-ins represents. Common in, the water's fine :>)

By the way, I do not work for SoFo in any capacity.

Riredale: "What really ticks me off with VV3 is that I get so absorbed into my editing projects that I wind up going to bed after midnight. ....The blame lies squarely with VV3."

LOL! Me too. I'm enough of a night owl already without something like Vegas to fall into until I hear the clomp! of the morning paper hitting my doorstep....

Clearly SoFo's fault. Why can't Vegas just frustrate me and then crash like other software, so I can get some sleep?

G

hi shogo,


Just play with the demo an you'll know if you love it.

When I started playing with the demo I knew that this is the app I
want to use for my productions.


And certainly there are many technical reasons to prefer VV3.

Stephan

Here's a complaint!!!!

You can't export an EDL that will work in the real world of post production. ie CMX, Sony, Avid. Premier does this very well.

That being said, I still prefer to edit with VV!!!!!!!!!!

Dear Shogo,

I can tell you this about VV. It's a great program. There is a learning cirve, but not complicated. The biggest asset to VV is their support. It doesn't get any better. I've experienced it first hand, and they stand behind what they sell. You can't go wrong. Buy it, you won't be sorry.

One suggestion. Start to leard the program on your own via all the material that they give you. i.e.: Tutorials, manuals, demo CDs, forums, and web sites, like this. Then register your copy. You get 60 days tech support free. Learn as much as you can, from as many sources as you can, before you register. That way you won't waste any of your free support.

Again, buy it. You'll be very happy with it.

A very happy, and most blessed, Holiday season to you, and yours,

I_Need_Help (And I always get it. Either from VV, or members of the forum)
Tony