Why does rending as .avi create more than 1 file?

Andry wrote on 1/5/2005, 10:24 AM
I really wouldn't care it I knew how to play all 4 files as one once I create my menu's in DVD Architect 2.0, but since I don't know how to do that, I was looking to learn how to create only one .avi file instead of 4 when rendering.

I want a play all button on my menu to play the entire video. Another button to choose by selection.

Unless, if you know the answer to my DVD menu question, please help.

Thanks.

Comments

Former user wrote on 1/5/2005, 10:41 AM
When you render to an AVI, if you are getting multiple files, it probably means you have your harddrive formatted as FAT32. FAT32 has 4gig file size limit.

If you are using Windows XP, reformat or convert your drive to NTFS. Then you will only have one AVI file upon render.

Dave T2
kentwolf wrote on 1/5/2005, 1:06 PM
Dave T2's answer is correct.

Reformat to NTFS.

However, you *could* simply link each video clip to play in order via end actions, but , there would be a pause between each clip.

Do the NTFS/single clip thing. That's the right way.
B.Verlik wrote on 1/5/2005, 1:30 PM
I'm still on FAT32. I can play .avi's without a problem. If you're talking about mpg2 on a DVD, I can still get about 85 minutes or so, in one mpg2 (4 GB). I do have to split the mpg2 if I go over 4 GB though. My simple way around this was to use DVD Shrink to 're-author' the DVD and both pieces would play without me having to hit a button. Yes, there was a 1 or 2 second pause between sections.
I can line up .avi's on the timeline forever and play them non-stop. But they are broken into 18 or 19 minute sections (4 GB)
If I make a DVD that is over 4 GB, I'll just make two chapters and the person has to go through that awful drudgery of starting the 2nd half. But, who doesn't need a snack/pee break within 90 minutes?
riredale wrote on 1/5/2005, 1:41 PM
Agreed. I did some lengthy stuff a few years back while on FAT32 partitions, and it all turned out great. But even though Vegas makes FAT32 a very minor annoyance, it's one more thing to have to plan around. Since I can't think of any drawback to using NTFS, I've converted all my drives to that type, except for the C drive (just lazy, I guess).
Former user wrote on 1/5/2005, 1:43 PM
I have a second computer with WinME on it. I leave my system drive on my XP computer at FAT32 so I can transfer files back and forth.

Dave T2
Andry wrote on 1/5/2005, 1:45 PM
Thank you both for your reply's. I will go back home this evening and try everything you suggested.

Thanks,

Andry
busterkeaton wrote on 1/5/2005, 1:47 PM
Is there a way to safely convert a drive from FAT32 to NTFS, if that drive contains files?
Former user wrote on 1/5/2005, 1:50 PM
Windows XP has an application for this. I have not done it, but many people have. I think it is recommended that you back up important files first.

Dave T2
Andry wrote on 1/5/2005, 1:51 PM
How do I reformat the drives? What steps are needed? Will I lose all of my info on those drives? Do I need to back them up?

Thanks
Former user wrote on 1/5/2005, 1:51 PM
XP has HELP on this.

Dave T2
BillyBoy wrote on 1/5/2005, 1:52 PM
Converting to a NTFS file system is the best solution. Fat 32 file systems are more prone to failure on top of the limitations of file size. Windows XP some other versions will harmlessly convert your files on the fly. Windows help gives you the simple step by step to get the ball rolling. You don't have to reformat. There is a slight risk one or more files could be lost if you suffer any system failure or hang during the conversion process. It also can take awhile if yo have lots of files on a bigger drive. The other plus aside from being able to make really huge video files like 80GB or more is if something does go wrong Windows is far more able to recover from a NTFS system then the old FAT32.
Andry wrote on 1/5/2005, 2:02 PM
Great help. Thanks. Will do this tonight.
Liam_Vegas wrote on 1/5/2005, 2:14 PM
This from the XP Help system.

To convert a volume to NTFS from the command prompt
kentwolf wrote on 1/5/2005, 2:22 PM
>>...To convert a volume to NTFS...Open Command Prompt.

I was pretty sure there was a way without the command prompt. I thought it was from the Manage console.

Nothing wrong with the command prompt, but a lot of people don't even know what it is... :)

The fact that the command prompt is now listed as an "accessory," pretty much says it all...
Liam_Vegas wrote on 1/5/2005, 2:49 PM
I don't see any option to do it in the Computer Management console.. but that does not mean it is not there.

The instructions I included above show how to get into the "command prompt" so it is pretty easy - and self contained... and should not cause anyone lost sleep to achieve the result.
MJhig wrote on 1/5/2005, 3:55 PM
Windows Support Center

There are a couple of things to do in advance if the conversion is to be efficient. If you do not take these preliminary steps, you are liable to end up with only 512 byte clusters, which is not a good idea.

What happens is that FAT32 partitions formatted by most Windows versions except Windows XP itself (and possibly Windows 2000) have an odd multiple of 2 kilobytes in the “system” sectors before the data area, where the File Allocation Tables themselves and clustering start. Therefore, clusters 4 KB in size are not aligned on 4 KB boundaries, as NTFS will want. CONVERT.EXE, finding it cannot use 4K clusters, gives up and makes the clusters only 512 bytes (one half KB) instead. (For a table of the varying default cluster sizes used by FAT16, FAT32, and NTFS for partitions of varying sizes, click here.)

It is, therefore, important to realign the partition before conversion, by moving all the data area up to a 4K boundary. (This will absorb odd sectors at the far end which otherwise would not get used). For this, I suggest BootIT NG, from BootitNG.com. This is a shareware program, priced at US$30 but with a 30-day fully functional trial. You may well find it valuable also for its Disk Imaging and Partition Management capabilities.

Download the BOOTITNG.ZIP file to its own folder, extract the contents of the ZIP file, then run BOOTITNG.EXE, which will make a bootable floppy. Boot this floppy. For purposes of Partition Management, there is no need to install the program to hard disk, so click Cancel Install, thus entering Maintenance. Click Partition Work. Highlight the partition you intend to convert. Click Slide, which has an option check box to Align for NTFS only. Click OK. As it has to move almost every sector on the entire partition, this will take a very long time — schedule it for a meal break, or start it to run overnight. (If it finishes quickly, that probably means that the partition was properly aligned already.)

Then restart the computer, boot Windows XP, being sure to logon as an Administrator, and defragment the disk. This ensures that there is, as far as possible, a contiguous area for the NTFS Master File Table. It is best if there is a fairly substantial amount of free space while you do it.

Now use the Windows XP convert tool: Go to Start | All Programs | Accessories | Command Prompt (or, from a Run box, type CMD) and, assuming you intend to convert C:, give the command:

VOL C:

Note the name of the disk in the first line, and the Volume Serial Number (for example, 3F4E-2D1B) in the second. Then type:

CONVERT C: /FS:NTFS

It will ask for that name in confirmation. Then it will ask two further questions. Reply Y each time to set up conversion to happen at the next boot, then restart the machine. (If you are converting a partition other than the operating system’s partition, you may find that it runs without rebooting.) After returning to Win XP, the hard disk will work for two or three minutes, tidying up. Leave things alone during this time.

Consult the Hints in the Windows Product Activation article (under What About Formatting a Hard Disk?) regarding the resetting of the volume serial number, which will have been changed. The hints given will assure that you do not lose a Windows Product Activation “life.”

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For the question above similar to "Can I format my drives without loosing my files?", the answer is absolutely not, formating completely erases the drive. Formating should not be confused with the XP file format conversion tool in XP and other 3rd party apps.

Edit:

Just to add, the floppy created as described above with BootitNG is not time restrictive. I've used it many times to do the above described action plus added partitions to existing drives with no ill affects. If can also be saved to a bootable CD for machines without floppy drives.

MJ