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kentwolf wrote on 1/27/2004, 5:26 PM
My guess would be is that it's going to be even more audio-centric.
taliesin wrote on 1/27/2004, 5:28 PM
Good point! I never would have noticed this at all if you didn't mention here. This is a pitty. There's been some things I thought to be rather useful for a version 5. But I think now it's a little late.

Marco
MyST wrote on 1/27/2004, 6:39 PM
The Vegas-audio users have felt abandoned by Sonic Foundry/Sony for some time. Actually, ever since Vegas became Vegas Video. Sony is now trying to rectify the problem. They actually started by dropping the "Video" in the title to make it Vegas 4.0.
Please don't read anymore into it than is really there. They aren't letting the video side of things slide at all.
As far as suggestions, there's always been the Product Suggestion portion of the SUPPORT menu that's beeen available for anyone wanting to suggest possible feature enhancements.
Vegas is an incredibly powerful audio editing app in it's own right (just ask Spot). The audio users have felt cast aside since the video side was becoming more and more powerful, yet they felt the audio enhancements left something to be desired. Sony doesn't feel like they neglected the audio features at all, and so they're asking what the users feel Vegas needs.
That's it in a nutshell, but please feel free to search all the posts in the audio forum for the past couple of years if you need to have more details. :)
I wouldn't worry AT ALL about Sony neglecting the video enhancements for Vegas 5.0.

M
HPV wrote on 1/27/2004, 7:14 PM
The Vegas-audio users have felt abandoned by Sonic Foundry/Sony for some time. Actually, ever since Vegas became Vegas Video. Sony is now trying to rectify the problem. They actually started by dropping the "Video" in the title to make it Vegas 4.0.
Please don't read anymore into it than is really there.
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I hear ya. Back before there were two Vegas forums I read lots of post about what the audio guys were wanting and how they felt Sofo was putting too much effort into the video side. It just seems that it would be a good way to get stuff out in the open and discussed. Some things that people want are already there. Other things could get hashed around to come up with the best way to implement the feature. Should reduce the amount of overlap that shows up in the product suggestion area. Not many things that need attention on the video side, but there are a few I can think of
(Nesting/CG/Capture).

Craig H.
Spot|DSE wrote on 1/27/2004, 7:24 PM
9 months ago---"Sonic Foundry's going away"
4 months ago---"Sony's gonna kill the Vegas line and make it a cheap editor"
1 month ago----"Sony's gonna raise the price and make it a high-cost editor"
Today:
Audio guys----"too much video"
Video guys----"too much audio"
It's ruff ruff to predict anything these days.
I predict that tomorrow will come. In fact, somewhere in Australia, it's already tomorrow, so I predict today will finish.

Thank heaven you guys aren't my stockbroker or analyst. :-)
HPV wrote on 1/27/2004, 7:33 PM
Video guys----"too much audio"
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Nobody said that Spot. ;-)

Craig H.
farss wrote on 1/27/2004, 7:37 PM
Ah yes,
one advantage of living in Australia or NZ. I've been reliably informed by a source I'm not at liberty to name that over here we can get Vegas 5.0 one day before you guys in the USA, subject to us signing a NDA.
Spot|DSE wrote on 1/27/2004, 8:17 PM
Actually, they did. Search the Vegas Audio forums from a year ago. But that WAS a year ago, not today. I was riffing a bit...I'M BUSTED!
TheHappyFriar wrote on 1/27/2004, 9:46 PM
I think they started this "official" post in the audio forum because Sony/SoFo moderators were sick of the users starting their own threads, then other users saying that another users wants were dog poo, blah blah blah blah. I belive the first post of the Sony/Sofo post was that ONLY feature requests were to be said and NO comments on other people's features.

Of course this didn't happen. :) I even posted in there. I had a couple suggestions that being a video savy guy could use audio wise to make my life easier. :) I think I was even told there's no reason for what I wanted because it could be some ina dificult manual maner.

I've even sent in about 5-6 suggestions to their suggestion box since I bought vegas.
Jessariah67 wrote on 1/27/2004, 10:01 PM
Perhaps the solution is a Vegas Audio (allows all features, but only 1 video track w/ no plugin support) and Vegas Complete, which would include both.

Audio is a crucial element of video, so I want them to continue to develop it. At the same time, I sympathize -- as an Acid user who will probably not upgrade to 5.0 because it's going to focus on VSTi & MIDI improvements (just a prediction), which I don't use at all, I can see where the "audio-only" people are coming from.

On a different spin of the same note, Sony will profit more from continuing to feed the video aspect of its products. Video is where thigns are headed. The fact that Vegas is so strong in audio is part of what makes it so appealing to people who conentrate on video. The audio-only guys should take that into account. We're all feeding the same fire, from a monetary standpoint.