Windows Secondary Display

Bagheera wrote on 1/20/2006, 4:40 AM
I'm a very happy owner of Vegas 6.0c and i'm working on my box with a ATI X600 video card with S/video TV out and Second Monitor out.
I were used to display the preview on the professional tv monitor.
My vegas does not detect multiple displays into my systems, even if my tvout is enabled (I can see it on my t vmonitor), so the preview is limited to the PC screen.
I've found the tvout.dll plugin filter that use an overlay surface to draw the preview (I can see it in theather mode), but I'm searching around to understand why my video card cannot be used in such manner.
A friend of mine uses an ATI Radeon 9550 and the secondary display works as espected....
I've not found any answer googling the internet.... Anyone can tell me more ?

Thanks in advance.

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FuTz wrote on 1/20/2006, 5:09 AM
You need to hook up this way :
firewire out from computer to your camera (or video device such as ADVC110 Canopus) and then s-video or composite out of your cam to the monitor.
RBartlett wrote on 1/20/2006, 5:41 AM
FuTz said it really.

I do however use the second port on my graphics card to preview - the feature added to Vegas6 primarily for a decent preview of HD footage without being anchored or needing a window or a common desktop area.

What you might need to investigate is the independent resolution mode of the graphics card driver that gives the 2nd head a separate identity in windows. Many new cards (matrox P, nvidia GF and ATI X) use spanning of a single logical desktop over two physical ports. In that mode, Vegas won't see a second display to rob it from Windows for its own use.

Control panel - Display settings-tab gives the game away. If you don't have two entries you don't have the 2nd head as a discrete display.

TV-out confuses this as this usually isn't a 3rd output but a variation of the theme for folks that only plug into the main VGA/DVI socket.

Hope that helps?
tbush wrote on 1/20/2006, 7:06 AM
I have a PNY Technologies video out box and had real problems getting it to output to my TV. I called the company and they were really nice and walked me thru everything. We had to work on it for quite a while, but we finally got the thing working, and its been working fine ever since.
Bagheera wrote on 1/20/2006, 7:09 AM
Yes, I know.
The question isn't on "How I can preview on my TV monitor", I can do that yet with the plugin mentioned.
The question is "Why my card could not be used as a secondary display".

Thanks however.
Bagheera wrote on 1/20/2006, 7:12 AM
I checked my screen properties and I can see 2 monitors (1 and 2) but vegas won't use anyway my second monitor.

Why Vegas does'nt use the overlay surface as many other NLE products do ? (Canopus/Premiere/Magix/Avid ......)

Thks.
tbush wrote on 1/20/2006, 7:50 AM
My apologies for my confusion, but when I talked to the company tech, we had to set my tv up as a Windows Secondary Display, and Vegas was not recognizing it. Somehow we worked it out, and I am not sure If I remember how, but I know we had to download a new driver and adjust resolutions. All I was suggesting is to call the maker of the card. I would think they would work with you to get it working. Anyway, just a suggestion, and If I am still confused, please disregard this post.
filmy wrote on 1/20/2006, 1:17 PM
Do you have the latest ATI drivers? I am using the Catalyst control center v1.2.2153.2409

As an example PPro in HD mode, as well as things like Windows media Player, PowerDVD and Media Player Classic will use the "Theatre mode" option and work fine in "clone mode" without the extended desktop. Vegas, however, needs to be set up different. It explains how to do this in the Vegas manual in detail but the short version is you need to go into the Catalyst Control center and than: Video > Theatre mode > Overlay Display Mode. Make sure *both* "clone mode" and "extended desktop" are both set to "in theatre mode (full screen)". Beyond that for Vegas you have to make sure the "extended desktop" mode is on - or the scecond monitor needs to be on so when you go into the "display manager" section and right click on either of the montior icons and choose "Identify" your PC monitor shows a "1" and the TV monitor shows a "2".

You can set up profiles that will open up a program when activated so you could, if you wanted to, set up a vegas profile and all you would have to do is to right click on the "Ati" icon (if you have it set up to be in the system tray) and select which profile you want to activate.
Bagheera wrote on 1/23/2006, 1:35 AM
I've installed the latest CCC from ATI yesterday (6.x available).
It seems that vegas doesn't use the overlay, but needs a separate graphic card.
Some cards emulate 2 devices in one, but it seems that the X600 doesn't.


Thnks
filmy wrote on 1/23/2006, 6:14 AM
>>>It seems that vegas doesn't use the overlay, but needs a separate graphic card.
Some cards emulate 2 devices in one, but it seems that the X600 doesn't.<<<

???

Not sure what you mean by that. I had an X300 and it worked fine with dual monitors. Are you sure you set up the X600 right for Vegas? What happens when you ID the monitors? A Big "1" should show up on one monitor and a "2" on the other, if they don't something is set up wrong.

if you right click on the ATI icon in the taskbar it should list the montiors - when you click on what should say "Radeon X600 Series Secondary" the "extended desktop" should be on - in other words if it is the only thing *not* greyed out you do not have it set up right for vegas.