Working System (almost)

kitsel wrote on 1/26/2001, 8:49 PM

I am using Vegas Video on a P3-533 intel computer
-Two Western digital UDMA hard drives 20 & 40 gig
17000k/sec R/W speed
-OHCI 1394 firewire card bought in the studioDV bundle
($99)
-Sony DCR-TRV520 Digital 8mm camcorder
-Windows 98SE

Everything is working pretty well. I can capture video
from the camcorder using either the StudioDV software or
the Sonic foundry video capture utility (up to 18 minutes
at a time (4Gig file limit)) and import either one into
Vegas. I can edit the files and render them to NTSC DV
output and use sonic video capture to print them back to
tape (up to 18minutes worth). The problem I am having
is "printing to tape" a file longer than 18 minutes.
StudioDV will allow me to take two or more 4gig files and
merge them together to make a longer tape, but I can't find
a rendering setting in Vegas that will create a file that
StudioDV will accept. My captured files from Studio DV
show up in Vegas properties as using the miroVideo codec.
I have tried rendering my output with the miroVideo codec
and any of the combinations (frame rate, field order, etc.)
I have tried when using that codec in "render as" of Vegas
fail.

I guess my question comes down to - does anyone know a
rendering setting that Studio DV will accept -or- is there
another program that will allow me to "print to tape" a
file longer than 18 minutes?
Al

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kitsel wrote on 1/30/2001, 12:10 PM

Found the answer to my own question. Even though vegas
identifies the compression of files from Studio DV as using
miroVideo CODEC it seems I don't have to use that
compression to send files back. If I use the NTSC DV
compression I can export to Studio DV to string 4gig files
together for printing to tape of longer movies. I would
have to say that everything is working perfect now. Very
happy with the product. If it weren't for the 4gig file
limit it would be perfect. I don't know if I want to make
the jump to WIN2k and have to spend another month looking
for drivers...
P.S. Video card is VODOO 3 2000 (16meg)

Alan Duncan wrote:
>>I am using Vegas Video on a P3-533 intel computer
>>-Two Western digital UDMA hard drives 20 & 40 gig
>>17000k/sec R/W speed
>>-OHCI 1394 firewire card bought in the studioDV bundle
>>($99)
>>-Sony DCR-TRV520 Digital 8mm camcorder
>>-Windows 98SE
>>
>>Everything is working pretty well. I can capture video
>>from the camcorder using either the StudioDV software or
>>the Sonic foundry video capture utility (up to 18 minutes
>>at a time (4Gig file limit)) and import either one into
>>Vegas. I can edit the files and render them to NTSC DV
>>output and use sonic video capture to print them back to
>>tape (up to 18minutes worth). The problem I am having
>>is "printing to tape" a file longer than 18 minutes.
>>StudioDV will allow me to take two or more 4gig files and
>>merge them together to make a longer tape, but I can't
find
>>a rendering setting in Vegas that will create a file that
>>StudioDV will accept. My captured files from Studio DV
>>show up in Vegas properties as using the miroVideo
codec.
>>I have tried rendering my output with the miroVideo codec
>>and any of the combinations (frame rate, field order,
etc.)
>> I have tried when using that codec in "render as" of
Vegas
>>fail.
>>
>>I guess my question comes down to - does anyone know a
>>rendering setting that Studio DV will accept -or- is
there
>>another program that will allow me to "print to tape" a
>>file longer than 18 minutes?
>> Al

GregoryS wrote on 3/16/2001, 11:21 AM

kitsel:

I got kind of the same question as you had (and self-
answered) regarding the ability of Studio DV and Vegas to
play together. I had been using the Main Actor Codec as
well within Studio DV as a better AVI codec (especially
useful when making VCDs with TMPGenc).

Have you discovered any new tips on how to get SDV and
Vegas working well together? It seemes that the Main Actor
codec is not recognized by Vegas, so I'm searching for a
high quality codec to bring files back and forth between
the programs. I tried the uncompressed AVI rendering, but
SDV didn't seem to like it too much.

Ideally, there would be a lossless method to render in each
program (I was hoping the Main Actor codec could do that),
so that I could capture and rough edit in SDV, do special
effects and detail editing in Vegas, and then maybe return
to SDV for the final Smartsound tracks and output to tape.
I suspect though that if I use an 'average' codec, there
would be substantial degradation along this long journey.

Any advice?

Thanks

SonyEPM wrote on 3/16/2001, 12:21 PM

You might try using the Microsoft DirectX8 DV codec, and
eliminate Pinnacle software from the process entirely. This
new DV codec is pretty good- most people think its right
there with the best DV codecs, and it works great with
Vegas and SF VideoCapture.

The only negative I see is the file size limit (no prob for
the Win2k user).

jboy wrote on 3/16/2001, 11:14 PM

GregoryS; I'm using Studio DV with Vegas, but you need the
Mainconcept codec-(another $50.00), not MainActor. The
MainActor codec only works within MainActor itself. You
might also try the Huffy codec, (search the Pinnacle
website for threads on this), as it's free and said to work
well..

jboy wrote on 3/16/2001, 11:15 PM

davids wrote on 3/17/2001, 5:05 PM

This may be a stupid question, but how do I change which DV
codec VV uses?

thanks