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PhilHemel wrote on 10/25/2003, 1:50 AM
OMG - It must be ZippY's Brother!
Spot|DSE wrote on 10/25/2003, 1:50 AM
No, because a veg file is a project file. You can have 2 instances (or more) of vegas open, have a veg in each instance, and copy/paste the media in the various veg's into one veg.
I use just about every editor out there from Final Cut to Combustion, Avid to Ulead. None of them can have multiple copies of an app open at once. Some can't even have more than one project open at once. Not sure what the beef here is....Vegas can not only have more than one instance, but can be rendering in multiple instances while editing in another. Pretty great, if you ask me.
Spot|DSE wrote on 10/25/2003, 1:55 AM
Yeah, my first thought was on similar lines. Garo, you might wanna tone it down, this forum doesn't deal with screaming too well, particularly when it's over an issue that's not an issue, but rather someone learning the software...Just some friendly advice based on many years of Vegas-user forum experience.
busterkeaton wrote on 10/25/2003, 2:51 AM
Anybody familiar with the HAT SQUAD in LAPD mythology? I'm sure it's turned up in a few movies. Los Angeles in its early days was kept relatively mob-free because if they got a tip that a new mobster was coming into the area, he would be met at the train station by the Hat Squad, which was four or five of the biggest cops in LA. They would take him to a remote motel and then, uh, "persuade" this individual that it was not in his best interest to move to LA. Then they would put him back on the train and tell him to tell his friends in Chicago or New York what kind of welcome they would get in LA. James Ellroy's take on this, and he knows better than I would, is that LA's resident gangster, Mickey Cohen, was paying the cops to do this, so he would have all of LA to himself. The deal was the cops would do this for him and he wouldn't operate out in the open.

Anyway, sometimes I feel we should set up a Hat Squad for the forum, take the nogoodniks and drop them off at the PremierePro website. (Also, I feel the same way about graduates of Rhode Island School of Design and Brown. They should be met at the Brooklyn border before they move to my neighborhood.)
johnmeyer wrote on 10/25/2003, 4:24 PM
garo,

As SPOT says, just open another instance of Vegas and cut and paste between them. This is actually a better way to go than simply dropping a veg file onto a timeline because there are lots of isssues about whether you want to also include busses, markers, regions, (etc.) from the original veg file into your new project.
Chienworks wrote on 10/25/2003, 10:07 PM
There's also the not insignificant issue of track arrangements being different. How would one open up a 5 audio / 3 video track .veg file in a project that has 2 audio / 1 video track? Where would the extra tracks go? Which ones would line up with the existing tracks, if any?
filmy wrote on 10/25/2003, 10:36 PM
Perhaps you mean can VV do nesting? In After Effects, and now Premere Pro for what I unserdtand, you can open a project and "nest" it on the timeline - not exactly the same as dropping a "*.veg" onto the timeline but is this what garo could mean?

if so - than the answer is still No - but sure wish VV had nesting. ;)
Luxo wrote on 10/26/2003, 1:39 AM
This has been suggested before, but you can use Satish's Vegas frameserver to "nest" projects inside others. Open the project you want to nest, frameserve it to an AVI file, and open that in another instance of Vegas. Voila.
filmy wrote on 10/26/2003, 4:58 PM
And the answer is still no - VV can't do nesting. :)

I use the frameserver for getting footage to After Effects to VV, or from Premiere to either After Effects or VV. yes you can "nest" by this method - but you can also open up another instance of
VV and 'Select all' than 'copy' and go to another project in another instance of VV and 'paste' the other project.

But I don't think that is what garo was asking. It just sounded like they meant "nesting" and just did not now what it was called so it came out "Why can't I drag a *.veg into the timeline?"
Luxo wrote on 10/26/2003, 5:52 PM
I've never needed to nest files, but just to play devil's advocate.....copying and pasting entire projects gets really messy when you have 20+ tracks. It's also a tedious process to copy any track FX / track motion keys to the other instance of vegas, since of course those aren't copied over automatically. And what do you do with FX applied at the project level?

In this case, frameserving is a better choice, but yes, true nesting is the best alternative.