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wiscoy wrote on 12/29/2002, 9:19 PM

Hi Guys! Hope everyone had a nice Holiday! I finally made a little video using JUST Video Factory. It's nothing fancy, but is a start. I took some analog from some old video tape of a dog show.. cropped it a bit (to fit the dog in the window) and added a couple of cross fades. You can see it at http://www.wiscoy.com/tim2.wmv (And please, no cracks about what exactly the judge IS checking for back there!!!) ;-) ;-)

I have to fess up though...I almost had a relapse and opened up the old VideoWave (the software that came with the dazzle garbage) Lucky for me, it wouldn't work with the Canopus,. ;-) I am still having a little trouble getting used to the timeline vs storyboard concept..but am keeping at it. If I get stuck on something..I know where to go. Thanks again!

Happy New Year to you all..

tt,
Jill

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Grazie wrote on 12/29/2002, 11:06 PM

Jill,

Excellent quality - crossade fade works - DON'T touch that WAVE! Stay away from the "Dark-Side" !

And happy new year to you as well and . . . . WOOF! to your other friends.

Grazie

randy-stewart wrote on 12/30/2002, 1:01 AM

Jill,
You're off to a good start. Try adding a title. Just click on the title/backdrops tab, go down to text and click that, then when the boxes comes up, click and drag the first one (sample text on a checkerboard is text on a transparent background so it will show up on the clip you have it above) up to the overlay track just above your first clip. When the box comes up (FX box), replace the sample text with your own and adjust the settings (size, placement, properties, effects), then hit the play button at the bottom. Adjust your play length on the overlay timeline by the normal squeezing or expanding the edges of the clip. Vooala! You have made a title. Now play around with it. Use the different templates. Make an ending. Fade them in and out by grabbing the top left (to fade in) or top right (to fade out) and pulling the corner towards the middle. Have fun!
Randy

wiscoy wrote on 12/30/2002, 8:16 AM

Thanks guys.. and thanks for the suggestion Randy. I did the title.. pretty nifty.

-J

randy-stewart wrote on 12/30/2002, 11:29 AM

Jill,

Okay, now take a few snapshots and place them on the end of your video, overlapping for crossfade, as a kind of summary of the event. To do this, just click on a clip, go to the frame you want to take a snapshot of (use the arrow keys to navigate one frame at a time), then click the little disk icon above the picture in the preview window. That will bring up the Explorer window so you can give the pic a name and location for storage. Once you've done that, it will also appear in your media bin so you can drag the picture up to the timeline. Cool, eh? (Next challenge will be using the pan/crop capability).

When I get time, I'll spruce up and post a video of my wife and dog-son Rocket (black lab/retriever mix) winning a dog obedience class. It's set to Queen's "We Are The Champions" music. Glad you are having success with the editing. I learn much from the tutorials and from the forum. When I hear about a technique, I try it out to see how it works. Happy editing.
Randy

randy-stewart wrote on 12/31/2002, 2:05 AM

Jill,
Uploaded the video to Chienworks site. Go to the below link:
http://www.vegasusers.com/vidshare/textdisp?stewartr002-rocketshow.txt
You'll have to copy it into your URL address line and hit go. Nothing fancy. Just a few clips, crossfades, titles, and some music. The orginal video is actually about 15 minutes long of the competition. My wife just enrolled Rocket into the advanced class yesterday so I guess I can plan on another show. Hope this gives you some ideas.
Randy

wiscoy wrote on 12/31/2002, 6:14 AM

Hi Randy..

I'm on the site now , waiting for it to download.. I see it's 10 + megs. Poor me, no cable or dsl out here in the sticks.. just dial up, and awful dial up to boot.. I connect at 28.8. Pretty pitiful, eh? I have been waiting for almost 45 min. now, and it still hasn't finished downloading... I think I'll go take the dogs for a walk and check back later. ;-)

-J

Grazie wrote on 12/31/2002, 6:33 AM

Wait for me! We could have a "Preview" converstation on this! - "Ice Cream - Pop-Corn - Albatross" - I'm getting there now Randy.

Grazie

Grazie wrote on 12/31/2002, 6:39 AM

Randy! Great Stuff! Loved the Queen audio. Wanna some more feedback? - Grazie

wiscoy wrote on 12/31/2002, 7:59 AM

Hey Randy.. I LOVED it!!!! ;-) Definately worth the download time. that Rocket is Da Man, isn't he?? First Place!! Your wife did a wonderful job with him...loved that recall.

I aspire to creat such a masterpiece. ;-) Seriously... I can see I am going to be practicing ALLOT. Tell me, you started out in your head knowing you wanted the Queen track for your background music, right? Then you looked at the length of that , put your video clips together, and filled it with the pictures and credits at the end so it would match the length of the music?

How long does a 10 meg video take normal people (ie people WITHOUT dialup to download) ? I really need to look into Direct Way for my internet connection. I'd like to do some bigger files.. but even the size I have up on my site now..around 2 megs, took me forever to upload.

Thanks a bunch for posting your video..it definately gives me some ideas.

Happy New Year!!!!

-Jill

wiscoy wrote on 12/31/2002, 8:00 AM

ps: For Rockets next feature film, I think that Elton's ROCKETMAN may be a good choice. ;-)

-J

Grazie wrote on 12/31/2002, 8:16 AM

I've been playing your clip continuosly for 30 mins in the corner of my workspace, while talking to a chum of mine on the phone, about your video of Rocket! He's now fired up to go down the Broadband route. Jill, is there no way you can get access to ADSL or DSL or cable something like it? I know I have relatives who are on a cable TV and have their phones and broadband routed to them on this. Any good?

Randy - I have to say that the possibilities of making combined projects - small clips and stuff is becoming more and more possible. - Yeah, okay it wont be at full DV quality, be even still. Any thoughts on this?

Grazie

wiscoy wrote on 12/31/2002, 8:27 AM

Oh I wish Grazie.. I dream of cable and dsl. I live out in the sticks, and there is no cable here. Our phone lines are the old copper type..and to make it even worse, my house is at the very end of the line for service.. we even have poles and wires running through the woods behind our house!!! Really...we do!! I'm sure the repair men draw straws to see who gets the call when something goes down here.

I've had Direct TV for several years...and really have been considering the Direct Way for the PC. It's a two way system, so I wouldn't need a dial up at all. Only drawback is the $600 inital investment.

How long did Randy's video take you to download?

-J

Chienworks wrote on 12/31/2002, 11:46 AM

Jill, i have a very general chart of usual upload/download times for various file sizes and connections at http://www.vegasusers.com/vidshare/uploadform, but your actual times could vary by orders of magnitude from these. My cable connection at home peaks at 1860Kbps download speed and Randy's 10MB video only took about 2.8 minutes for me to download (average 470Kbps).

wiscoy wrote on 12/31/2002, 12:42 PM

thanks for the url.. that is a handy chart to have. I figure that if I can upload it with my pitiful dial up, everyone else should be able to downlaod it without a problem. ;-)

-Jill

randy-stewart wrote on 12/31/2002, 1:16 PM

All,
First, thanks for the kind words. Everytime you stroke the work, it's like payday!
Jill,
Believe it or not, Sir John's "Rocketman" is on the original show as the first song (great minds...). As for the process, I try to make it as simple as possible. First, I capture in chronological order (not capturing parts I know I won't use to save hard drive space), then drag each clip up to the timeline for trimming (I overlap all clips for crossfade transitions), add special effects (slow-mo, fast-mo, sound effects, pan/crop, FX, etc.), add titles, and finally add the music. Of course I have in mind which music I want to use but I don't add that until last as my ideas change during the edit process. I get input from my son, Colton alot also. For this piece, I knew that I wanted it to be short so I just laid the music track down and then edited the show to fit. It came out a little rough but I wanted to post it to show what YOU can do with this program and I'm glad to see that you are excited about getting it to work.

For Grazie, yes I like your idea about collaboration (kinda what's going on here, eh?) and I'd really like to use it to learn different techniques. I've been toying with the idea of starting up a local users group exactly for that purpose (and others) to help me learn. We can all learn the technical side of the software but what I want is "the best approach" or the "simple format" information that you get from experienced users. This forum does that in a fractured way and maybe that's good since you get info for a specific problem at the time you need it. Kelly has tried to start a technical forum on his site but it really hasn't taken hold yet. Looking for ideas on how to share more...for lack of a better term..."tutorial" kind of knowledge. Thoughts? Maybe we can start a new thread on that.
Okay, enough for now. Jill, looking forward to more shows of the dogs. Actually, Rocket is my son's dog and we have two miniture weeeeners that boss him around. Aloha,
Randy